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  1. 09-04-2006, 08:17 PM #1
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    Help from EVO readers

    I missed EVO no. 93 (July 06) in which John Barker gave a greatest hot hatch list (in the "Ask the experts" column). I'm very curious to see what he put in it, so can any one please transcribe it? Thx....
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    His list was as follows....

    1. Renault Clio Williams
    2. Renault Clio Trophy/Cup
    3. Pug 306 Rallye
    4. Pug 106 GTI
    5. Mini Cooper S
    6. Pug 205 GTI 1.9
    7. Golf GTi MkI (or 16V MkII)
    8. Citroen Saxo VTR

    He did say that the top 3 were interchangeable dependent on conditions and mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Bauer
    His list was as follows....

    1. Renault Clio Williams
    2. Renault Clio Trophy/Cup
    3. Pug 306 Rallye
    4. Pug 106 GTI
    5. Mini Cooper S
    6. Pug 205 GTI 1.9
    7. Golf GTi MkI (or 16V MkII)
    8. Citroen Saxo VTR

    He did say that the top 3 were interchangeable dependent on conditions and mood.

    6 and 7 should be higher
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    has anyone read the latest EVO??...The supertest was sheer brilliance and the test between the Macca and Bugatti was quality..Each edition of EVO is nearly always better than the last...Though beating this edition will take something really special
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Bauer
    His list was as follows....

    1. Renault Clio Williams
    2. Renault Clio Trophy/Cup
    3. Pug 306 Rallye
    4. Pug 106 GTI
    5. Mini Cooper S
    6. Pug 205 GTI 1.9
    7. Golf GTi MkI (or 16V MkII)
    8. Citroen Saxo VTR

    He did say that the top 3 were interchangeable dependent on conditions and mood.
    Thanks!

    Does any one know if he was talking about the real mini cooper s or the new mini? naa, it couldn't be the fat new one...

    Pug 106 Gti and Saxo VTS would be considered the same car, wouldn't it?... 'cause I own one ATM...
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    I'm not an EVO reader, but was there any reason why they left out the Civic Type R?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R
    I'm not an EVO reader, but was there any reason why they left out the Civic Type R?
    As great a car as it is, the rest of them have that little something extra.

    The Civic may have been one of the first with around 200bhp, but the steering was slated...

    A shame.

    However, a 306 GTi-6 would ring my bell anyday!
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    The 306 Rallye almost the same car.

    The Clio V6 is the obvious best hot hatch ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h00t_h00t
    The Clio V6 is the obvious best hot hatch ever.
    As much as I love it, and as much as I would love one, IMO I don't really think that qualifies as a hot hatch. Yes it has a hatch back but, like the Cooper Works GP, anything without rear seats loses the most important thing a hot hatch should have along with all the driving stuff... useability and practicality. You should be able to own one as you only car, that you drive every day. The V6 doesn't have that.
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    Its still technically a hatchback because it doesn't a have a boot, just an opening (hatch) at the back to access space behind the seats.

    However by the same definition many much larger cars can also be called hatchbacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h00t_h00t
    The 306 Rallye almost the same car.

    The Clio V6 is the obvious best hot hatch ever.
    The 306 Rallye had the same bodyshell and engine, but it had no part-leather/alcantara seats, air-con, split-folding rear seat, or real badges
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    Quote Originally Posted by h00t_h00t
    Its still technically a hatchback because it doesn't a have a boot, just an opening (hatch) at the back to access space behind the seats.
    There are no back seats.

    I was really trying to quantify the difference between a Hot Hatch and a performance hatch back. The Clio V6 is more of a sillouette racer than a Hot Hatch, i reckon.
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    When they talk about hot hatches, they shouldn't forget one of the first ever: the Alfasud. But this was about FWD in general, wich explains the Barchetta being there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McReis
    When they talk about hot hatches, they shouldn't forget one of the first ever: the Alfasud. But this was about FWD in general, wich explains the Barchetta being there.
    Barchetta? I can't see it on the list And Barchetta can't be called a hatchback under any circumstances
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