6.0L V8 from holden

[HSVLVR]

Except for that crazy goose Tom Walkinshaw.....

That is very true

[SlickHolden]

Do you two need a room?

hahahahahaha Classic

[Sid447]

No thats in the HSV models. This one is more based on the Trucks.
I think hands down it shits on the old LS1 which was a great engine after 7 years of playing and tinkering with new parts it got to be a very good engine.
But the new one is a torque beast and doesn't piston slap

Hello to you all by the way, a little new to this particular Forum.

The above post is quoted not to aim at anyone personally.
I run an LS1-powered car. A 2002 VX series II (LHD) I have never experienced any piston slap and there a literally thousands of LS1's that haven't either.

The problem was acknowledged by the factory quite some time ago and a fix was validated. It's mentioned here, and this is dated 2001
http://www.c5registry.com/2k2z06/page5.htm

By the end of 2001 most of the engines were built using LS6 blocks and all engines had the LS6 intakes from MY2001. By 2003 all production was only LS6 blocks the original LS1 block was out of production, effectively meaning the cylinder heads (casting number 241) were the only parts that were still "original" LS1.
My car for example is a Dec 2001 build and had an LS6 block, also the revised pistons and rings. It doesn't have any oil consumption issues either and it's up over stock by about 120RWhp.

The LS2 is a good engine.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com..._look_feature/
Differences to Gen 3 here:
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...s_differences/

But it's not any better than the LS1 size for size.
The extra 304cc give it a little more go but considering it uses a larger cam 204/211 .525/.525 compared to the LS1's 198/208 .500/.500 and the same heads that were developed for the 5.7 LS6 version, that's only to be expected.
In fact the 2001 LS6 (in the ZO6) had the same 204/211 cam (this is where the LS2 cam came from) ....it was validated at 385hp/385lb-ft stock.
The LS2 is validated for 400hp/400lb-ft.
...From that viewpoint the 5.7 engine is making better power per litre!
If you compare torque (from stock figures) then the 5.7 LS6 set the benchmark with a BMEP higher than the LS2 or even the 7.0L LS7 for that matter.

Naturally with it's larger capacity the LS2 and variants have the potential to make higher power:-
This is an interesting article.........
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/1...l_block_build/

[SlickHolden]

Hello to you all by the way, a little new to this particular Forum.

The above post is quoted not to aim at anyone personally.
I run an LS1-powered car. A 2002 VX series II (LHD) I have never experienced any piston slap and there a literally thousands of LS1's that haven't either.

The problem was acknowledged by the factory quite some time ago and a fix was validated. It's mentioned here, and this is dated 2001
http://www.c5registry.com/2k2z06/page5.htm

By the end of 2001 most of the engines were built using LS6 blocks and all engines had the LS6 intakes from MY2001. By 2003 all production was only LS6 blocks the original LS1 block was out of production, effectively meaning the cylinder haeds (casting number 241) were the only parts that were still "original" LS1.
My car for example is a Dec 2001 build and had an LS6 block, also the revised pistons and rings. It doesn't have any oil consumption issues either and it's up over stock by about 120RWhp.

The LS2 is a good engine.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com..._look_feature/
Differences to Gen 3 here:
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...s_differences/

But it's not any better than the LS1 size for size.
The extra 304cc give it a little more go but considering it uses a larger cam 204/211 .525/.525 compared to the LS1's 198/208 .500/.500 and the same heads that were developed for the 5.7 LS6 version, that's only to be expected.
In fact the 2001 LS6 (in the ZO6) had the same 204/211 cam (this is where the LS2 cam came from) ....it was validated at 385hp/385lb-ft stock.
The LS2 is validated for 400hp/400lb-ft.
...From that viewpoint the 5.7 engine is making better power per litre!
If you compare torque (from stock figures) then the 5.7 LS6 set the benchmark with a BMEP higher than the LS2 or even the 7.0L LS7 for that matter.

Naturally with it's larger capacity the LS2 and variants have the potential to make higher power:-
This is an interesting article.........
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/1...l_block_build/

That would be the change in the name also. From VT to VX Gen3 to LS1. It's not likely that anyone that owns a VX LS1 would have any issues. But many a VTII Gen3 owner just might. And this issue is on GM shoulders because they made some bad engines and trannys around 99-2000. And even the first Monaro suffered from this according to wheels mag when they talked about 28 years of V8 Commodores.
I think Holden's internal name for the engine by VX-VY was LS1.5.

[HSVLVR]

I think Holden's internal name for the engine by VX-VY was LS1.5.

Hmm... Interesting

[fpv_gtho]

Slick that wasnt a name change. LS1 and LS6 were both Gen3's much like LS2's, LS7's. L76's, L98's are all Gen4's

[SlickHolden]

I still get very lost when it comes to all these LS's.
But i read somewhere holden took as many of the upgrades they could and made it up with some LS2 parts i think?.

[fpv_gtho]

Well sid447 just pointed out how many LS6 parts were in the LS1's we had, is that what you had in mind?

[SlickHolden]

Yep i think so but my mind don't know what was in mind but that sounds right Upgrades from another

[HSVLVR]

This thread is confusing. Who started it?

[fpv_gtho]

The answer...lies...within the FIRST POST

[caz_375]

Slick that wasnt a name change. LS1 and LS6 were both Gen3's much like LS2's, LS7's. L76's, L98's are all Gen4's

LS2's are actually GenIV's....aren't they ? Or was that supposed to be a full stop between LS7's and L76's ?

[fpv_gtho]

Supposed to be a comma, so yeah LS2's are Gen4's

[caz_375]

As is the LS7, of course. The whole wording of that sentence confused the heck outta me.......all makes sense, now.

[SlickHolden]

What would have been easy if they just made normal engine names.
Making to different capacity engines LS1-LS2 was nuts sounds like they follow each other and are the same. You could be mistaken for thinking they are both GEN3's.
What happen to the LS3