The Corvette is IRS as well, did you think is was not?Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows
The Corvette is IRS as well, did you think is was not?Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows
Your lambasting IRS Setups for Drag racing led me to believe the Corvette had a different set up- somehow leaf springs and IRSOriginally Posted by Slicks
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See my underline of Slick's previous postOriginally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows
(Pre-VE Commodore IRS is basic old-style 3 link a-la BMW 2002 or Datsun 1600/510, while our local non-IRS cars are one set of multiple leaf springs per side & longditudinally mounted like Roman Chariot. By contrast Corvette IRS system uses a single leaf, positioned laterally. I'm guessing those 'C' bars on 1-Ton TT are probably what we call tramp bars aka control arm (OE fit on Falcon XA GT M4 eg) to alleviate spring wind-up aka axle twist)Originally Posted by Slicks
Last edited by nota; 10-11-2006 at 11:55 AM.
C'mon, are you serious? So youve been arguing about a car that you know nothing about??? The Corvette has had IRS (and wishbone suspension) since 1963! They are transversly mounted leafs, that means one in the front, and one in the rear. They are also composite, so they are lighter than coils, and will last longer too(and act like anti-roll bars).Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows
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Last edited by Slicks; 10-11-2006 at 12:34 PM.
I do actuallyOriginally Posted by Slicks
YesOriginally Posted by Slicks
Leaf springs are leaf springs. They have the same compression and rebound charateristics.Originally Posted by Slicks
I've yet to experience "axle hop" in an IRS carOriginally Posted by Slicks
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Thats where your wrong, the way the vette is setup is completely different from a truck. To top things off shocks make a night and day difference. I rarly hear about corvette getting wheel hop.Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
Meant to say wheel hop. Go drive a porsche.I've yet to experience "axle hop" in an IRS car
I guess you dont drive any fast IRS cars. From cobras to corvettes you gotta be careful it can get ugly.Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
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I assume,by Cobras you mean mustangs, which have never had an independent rear, at leat not to my knowledge. Nevermind, you mean Shelby Cobras, I see what you are saying now.Originally Posted by rev440
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The 01, 03, and 04 Mustang Cobras all do. Im pretty sure the Cobra R has IRS as well.Originally Posted by Mr.Tiv
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The difference being?Originally Posted by Slicks
I'd love to. Do you have one I can borrow? Actually, have you driven a Porsche? Or you relying on what people on Vette forums are saying about Porsches?Originally Posted by Slicks
I'd consider an LS1 Calais pretty damn quick, so are STis, so are 200s.Originally Posted by rev440
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Shelby Cobras = solid rear end (many are built off the fox body platform)Originally Posted by Mr.Tiv
Mustang Cobra (01-04) = IRS
Just making sure you werent confusing it with anything else.Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
Read much?I'd love to. Do you have one I can borrow? Actually, have you driven a Porsche? Or you relying on what people on Vette forums are saying about Porsches?
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...cabriolet.html
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=102980
http://www.caymanclub.net/topic.asp?...ce+Your+Cayman
That was a few seconds with google...
GTOs (monaros), STis, and EVOs all suffer from wheel hop, Ive personally seen it at the track. What are 200s?I'd consider an LS1 Calais pretty damn quick, so are STis, so are 200s.
Yes... but no. First, just like there are different types of coil springs there are different types of leaf springs. I have a coil spring in my ball point pen but it's not very similar to the ones on my cars.Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
The Vette has double A arm suspension front and rear. It just happens that the springs used with that suspension are leaves rather than coils.
Here's some good info (sorry, the author was excessively wordy and rambles at times)
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...e+leaf+springs
And yet it's never been a problem in any of the reviews I've read for any of these cars. Have you maybe considered the fact that it's due to the fact that the Vette has double wishbones, whilst the 3 cars listed in those links don't?Originally Posted by Slicks
Nissan 200SXOriginally Posted by Slicks
Last edited by 2ndclasscitizen; 10-11-2006 at 09:39 PM.
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Ferrari's have double A-arm as well. As do Miatas. If the car has wheel hop issues it's not because it "has double A-arm". If it has problems it might be related to the implementation as seen on the Vette but it's not just because it has double A-arms.Originally Posted by 2ndclasscitizen
Typically wheel hop is caused because some part of the drive line winds up the releases. That can include the suspension arms. Axle wrap in a live axle car is one example. The Cadillac CTS-V has problems with this because the rear dif carrier is mounted rather softly to the chassis (soft mounts yield good NVH). The Corvette's dif is not likely to wind up as it's connected to the engine via a log tube. The tube and the fact that the car uses a rear mounted transmission (wider spacing between pick up points holding the "rear end") keep the transmission and final drive inline with the motor.
Having driven a 2005 Z51 Vette I can say it was easy to spin the tires and I didn't experience wheel hop even with the factory run flats.
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