Saoutchik

[D'ARTOIS]

At last I discovered the magic era of the pre war cars, 1930-1940 and 1947-1953 - great cars, great designs.
Best of all : Saoutchik, Jaques - superlative cars like the Bucciali, Lago Talbot and many others.

Now my questions: Most books are glossy photobpooks.
Are there any books that reveil technical drawings, blueprints etc of such desings (Bugatti, Saoutchik, Touring etc)

Can somebody give me links to sites where vintage rolling chassis and engines engines are offered.

I would be most grateful.

[blingbling]

Can somebody give me links to sites where vintage rolling chassis and engines engines are offered.

Damn... not easy links to find.

[henk4]

Not the easiest of questions, as far as I remember I have never seen a rolling chassis of any of such cars being offered lately or at all.

[D'ARTOIS]

That's the point : I do not believe that there are many rolling chassis around, I have found some but they are from British made cars i.e. high engines and high radiators.

I believe that the most perspecive source might be France.

But my question is also are there any drawings left of designs such as Saoutchik?

[henk4]

That's the point : I do not believe that there are many rolling chassis around, I have found some but they are from British made cars i.e. high engines and high radiators.

I believe that the most perspecive source might be France.

But my question is also are there any drawings left of designs such as Saoutchik?

I am sure there must be drawings left, we have some books on Delahaye (Le Grand Livre) and Delage (La Belle Voiture Francaise) which do have some drawings, but rather more pictures. I would think that the archives of some French museums (Mulhouse?) or the collection of somebody like the late Serge Pozzoli might be a possible source.

[D'ARTOIS]

Henk,

The point is that a very good friend of mine is on the brink of buying a rolling chassis. There are two for sale of the Bentley Mk VI that could be used.
One is equipped with the standard 4.3 ltr 6 cyl and there is another one with an additional 8 cylinder in line.

Next he wants to equip this original Bentley frame with a coachwork that looks like Saoutchik.
I can help him to develop the design, I design large motoryachts, so a small structure like a car is not that difficult, put it in Autocad or Solixd Works e.g. Rhino, and we have a technical very precise 3D design. From that, we can make a cutting file with sheet developments and plasmacut all the sheets in say 1,2 mm aluminium Al Mg 4,5 that is very corrosion resistant, rather than using standard alloys.

That will save many hours in shaping the sheets, secondly, working this way, we have an excact view on the weightdistributions.

The only disadvantage is the rough styling of the Bentley frameworks.
Th CoG os a postwar Bentley is extremely high and cannot be compared whith the much more advanced designs of the Italians and the French.

So, the Bentley chassis might not the one we are looking for.

[Dickrich]

The Buccialli book by Heut has many Saoutchik drawings, including cars that were never made. It would be neat to create one of those.

[henk4]

The Buccialli book by Heut has many Saoutchik drawings, including cars that were never made. It would be neat to create one of those.

Huet (Christian)

[Dickrich]

Huet (Christian)

Yeah. Almost all the information known about these Buccialis come from him, but most people don't credit their source.

[D'ARTOIS]

What doe that mean: that they are not original?

[henk4]

What doe that mean: that they are not original?

there is only one original Bucciali left, and even that is fitted with a significant number of new parts.

[Ferrer]

Why not use the chasis of car which has had an accident, if the chasis is not damaged?

And does it have to be from a famous brand? If not, you have many options...

[cbid123]

Is there still any interest in a Saoutchik bodied Bentley after so many years?
Last post 2006?
Over the past few years I have been working on finishing building an aluminum replica of the 1939 Saoutchik MkV Bentley. The replica being based on a Bentley MkVI chassis.The MkVI chassis is extremely similar to the MkV and required minimal work to bring to within fractions of an inch of the MkV spec..
The project was started by an owner of the original car. The original car was side by side with the replica, being built while the original still in his possession.
I also have a sectioned fiberglass mould of the original car. A very useful place to start if you have no drawings.
I have virtually completed the chassis. Enough so to drive it around the local car park.
Although the project has languished for a few years I have recently thought it about time I did something about it.
Either I muster the energy and funds to finish it or consider selling the project.
It is all too easy to get distracted by other projects that seem equally demanding.

Take a look at the original car at the attached link.
1939 Bentley Mark V Images, Information and History (MK5) | Conceptcarz.com

[csl177]

Is there still any interest in a Saoutchik bodied Bentley after so many years?
Last post 2006?

Over the past few years I have been working on finishing building an aluminum replica of the 1939 Saoutchik MkV Bentley.
The replica being based on a Bentley MkVI chassis.

Take a look at the original car at the attached link.
1939 Bentley Mark V Images, Information and History (MK5) | Conceptcarz.com

How about pics of your project instead?

[cbid123]

It is my intension to post some photos as soon as I get a chance.