Originally Posted by
Matra et Alpine
No I only pointed out that the sensor is a complex part in a complex control system.
its amazing that when you want to be humble you can. Anyways the sensors are actually quite simple (although they are prescision sensors) and they don't neccessarily need to be part of a complex control system. That is all that I was trying to say.
Originally Posted by
Matra
The output of wideband is a voltage too
Nope broadband lambda sensors output is a current (normally mA), as the voltage is maintained in both the pump and the concentration sensor at a stable value.
Originally Posted by
Matra
You yourself listed the parts and all I was saying earlier is that a variable in the engine operation that does not fit in to the model design causes unknown results.
Again amazing how humble you can be when you want to. While it is true that if they used a lambda sensor that for some reason is not suitable for the current task it will cause unknown effects, hopefully they can find the right lambda sensor for the job. However I would like to point out that we discussing how Lambda sensors are fooled neither of us has implied that the sensor is in perfect working order and that the measured results are to be trusted.
Originally Posted by
Matra
Widebands are sensitive to exhaust gas pressure -- you should know that if you know about them
Also the control loop on the pump timing can make a difference in different circumstances.
Yes but the majority of broadband lambda sensors can operate well through a large range of pressures (from idle on a open exhaust engine to full throttle on a turbocharged engine). You do have a point about the control system for the pump timing but as it is trying to keep the sensor cell at lambda 1.00 they basically have a built in diagnostic system (if the sensor cell is not maintained at Lambda 1.00 then there is a problem).
Power, whether measured as HP, PS, or KW is what accelerates cars and gets it up to top speed. Power also determines how far you take a wall when you hit it
Engine torque is an illusion.