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    I know what Torque is, but I'm just saying that tractors have a LOT of torque... ok!?
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    Quiggs is right on the money. Diesels aren't bad anymore. People still think they are though. Actually, there are many tractor trailers that spew a lot of diesel fumes. Clean them up first and then worry about other stuff. They stink!

    Again, the old crappy ones do. The newer ones don't. If you get rid of all the old ones the image could improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R
    Quiggs is right on the money. Diesels aren't bad anymore. People still think they are though. Actually, there are many tractor trailers that spew a lot of diesel fumes. Clean them up first and then worry about other stuff. They stink!

    Again, the old crappy ones do. The newer ones don't. If you get rid of all the old ones the image could improve.
    Buy a Diesel and run it on chip fat for 20p per litre in UK I think...
    Used fat or new cooking oil will do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall
    Buy a Diesel and run it on chip fat for 20p per litre in UK I think...
    Used fat or new cooking oil will do
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    A relevant question: I am under the impression that European Diesels have DOHC technology. Is this technology really useful, or it's just there for the Marketing hype? Diesels are not high-revving engines, they don't need overhead cams. A pushrod would be cheaper, lighter and more efficient in the low-mid revs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall
    I know what Torque is, but I'm just saying that tractors have a LOT of torque... ok!?
    This is somewhat due to gearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightweight
    A relevant question: I am under the impression that European Diesels have DOHC technology. Is this technology really useful, or it's just there for the Marketing hype? Diesels are not high-revving engines, they don't need overhead cams. A pushrod would be cheaper, lighter and more efficient in the low-mid revs.
    Most new diesels also have 4-valves per cylinder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightweight
    A relevant question: I am under the impression that European Diesels have DOHC technology. Is this technology really useful, or it's just there for the Marketing hype? Diesels are not high-revving engines, they don't need overhead cams. A pushrod would be cheaper, lighter and more efficient in the low-mid revs.
    Four valve technology is probably better to control the flows in the cylinder head. OHV and 4 valves haven't been mated as far as I know, even the rumoured LS2 4 valve version is still there.
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    the older honda civic engine (i know no codes) used SOHC and 4VPC. Older cars also used DOHC and 2VPC..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jediali
    the older honda civic engine (i know no codes) used SOHC and 4VPC. Older cars also used DOHC and 2VPC..
    Yes, but lightweight was referring to pushrods, not overhead cams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer
    Yes, but lightweight was referring to pushrods, not overhead cams.
    ok my apologies. I worked in the mechant navy for a while and i worked on some really big 6-cyl 4-stroke TC diesels that had a single camshaft at the side of the engine which activated 4VPC. the camshaft had 12 lobes each activating the nearest valves then the 2nd row of valves was operated by the 1sts rocker. heres a snap of that engine:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall
    Buy a Diesel and run it on chip fat for 20p per litre in UK I think...
    Used fat or new cooking oil will do
    No, my complaint was to clean up the lorries. Some of them are in such a bad state of repair. Their emissions are horrible. They hog the road and stink it up too while they're at it. I'm perfectly fine with diesels. I like them. The old ones really suck at the emission and they're not exactly efficient. If you cleaned them up (as in get rid of them and get newer tractor trailers that are more efficient), it could give a better image in the long run. I can imagine a street smelling like french fries. Good stuff there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4
    Four valve technology is probably better to control the flows in the cylinder head. OHV and 4 valves haven't been mated as far as I know, even the rumoured LS2 4 valve version is still there.
    Do Diesels also use Variable valve timing?
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    VVT may help diesels but because they are usually TC and have direct injection (thats heteregeneous mixture control) there is less need to manage polution and air inntake from the point of view of VVT
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