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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRENALINE
    ...it offends me.
    DON'T YOU DARE!....call me a noob. It offends me. I won't edit your posts anymore.

    While you're changing your ways, you should stop disrespecting the engineers of the 08' Viper who decided a supercharger wasn't needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -What-
    DON'T YOU DARE!....call me a noob. It offends me. I won't edit your posts anymore.
    Calling you a n00b isn't breaking the rules. From your behaviour in the post I was replying to, I came to that conclusion. It still stands.

    Modifying quotes IS breaking the rules. People have been banned for doing so.


    While you're changing your ways, you should stop disrespecting the engineers of the 08' Viper who decided a supercharger wasn't needed.
    LMFAO. Because I stated that opting for a supercharger would have been easier, I have disresepcted the engineers. I am seriously laughing so hard right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADRENALINE
    8.4 liters, holy shit that's alot! A supercharger would have been easier than upping the displacement.
    A lot of people modify Vipers and by putting on a supercharger you take away a lot of the freedom given to the Viper community as far as modifying goes. That would upset a lot of people.

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    The McLaren who worked on this engine (Nickelson McLaren Engineering) is not the same company who built the SLR and F1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyco
    The McLaren who worked on this engine (Nickelson McLaren Engineering) is not the same company who built the SLR and F1
    Am I right to guess that they are totally unrelated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyco
    The McLaren who worked on this engine (Nickelson McLaren Engineering) is not the same company who built the SLR and F1
    I think it's a branch though unless I'm mixing up the McLaren team who worked on the GNX.

    BTW, more news, this coming from the roadster press release.
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    The new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 boasts more of what performance aficionados crave: kick-in-the-pants, throw-back-in-the-seat power, combined with benchmark braking, world-class ride and handling, a race-inspired interior and bold exterior styling.

    While every SRT vehicle offers balanced, overall performance, the heart and soul of the new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 is its standout powertrain. For 2008, SRT ups the ante with a new, 8.4-liter aluminum V-10 engine that produces an astounding 600 horsepower and 560 lb.-ft. of torque.

    "A legendary big-game hunter once said, "Bring enough gun!" – and with the new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10, we"ve created some very powerful artillery for sports-car enthusiasts," said Kipp Owen, Director – Street and Racing Technology (SRT) Engineering, Chrysler Group. "With 600 horsepower – 90 more than before - and 0-to-60 performance in less than four seconds, the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 sets a new benchmark for the ultimate American sports car."

    The new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 will arrive in Dodge showrooms in North America this summer with a new level of customization options, including five new exterior colors, four new interior color combinations and a new wheel design.

    Powertrain

    When SRT powertrain engineers set out to get more venom from the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10's powerplant, their objectives included not only increasing performance, but also complying with stringent regulatory requirements, such as federal Tier 2, Bin 5 and California's Low Emissions Vehicle (LEV) 2 mandates.

    Working with specialists from McLaren Performance Technologies and Ricardo, Inc., SRT engineers began by following the racer's basic formula for more power: bigger displacement, more efficient breathing and higher engine speed.

    The new Dodge Viper SRT10's deep-skirted V-10 aluminum engine block was revised for a 1-millimeter larger bore, raising the displacement to 8.4 liters from 8.3 liters. With strengthened bulkheads and improved water jackets for better cooling, the block includes pressed-in iron cylinder liners and cross-bolted main bearing caps for strength and durability.

    The Viper SRT10's 8.4-liter engine breathes through new cylinder heads equipped with Computer Numerically Controlled (CNC)-shaped combustion chambers, larger valves and Variable Valve Timing (VVT). VVT electronically adjusts when the exhaust valves are open and closed according to engine speed and load, allowing the engine to "breathe" cleaner and more efficiently.

    The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 V-10's two-piece intake manifold combines a cast aluminum lower with smooth runners for better air flow, bolted to a die-cast aluminum upper plenum. A revised air-cleaner box with a low-restriction filter sends air through a dual electronic throttle control into the intake module.

    The air-fuel mixture in the cylinders is ignited by platinum-tip spark plugs fired by new individual plug coils mounted on the cylinder-head covers.

    Within the cylinders, pistons are equipped with larger-diameter floating pins with bronze bushings for high-load capability. Forged powder-metal connecting rods are secured with aircraft-quality fasteners for increased fatigue strength.

    Engine lubrication is managed by a larger oil pump and a swinging oil pickup adapted from Viper competition engines, to improve oil pressure in high-rpm and hard-cornering conditions.

    Spent gases exit through tubular air-gap headers, which not only improve exhaust flow, but also ensure quick catalyst light-off for improved emission control. The headers" stamped stainless-steel outer shell acts as a thermal heat shield for the individual stainless-steel runners that contribute to better flow separation and exhaust tuning.

    SRT engineers didn"t stop there. Upgrades were developed to handle the 8.4-liter V-10's increased horsepower and torque levels, while improving traction, driveability – and durability.

    The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10's V-10 channels its power through a new, smaller-diameter, twin-disc clutch (a change from the previous larger-diameter, single-disc setup). The new clutch reduces rotating inertia by 18 percent, resulting in reduced clutch-pedal effort and improved engagement feel.

    The transmission is the latest evolution of the Tremec T56 six-speed manual, known as the TR6060. It features 10 percent wider gears for higher torque capacity and a new synchronizer package. A new shifter system results in reduced shifter travel. Club racers will applaud a new provision for adding an external transmission cooler.

    Braking

    Stopping power is another key attribute of the Dodge Viper SRT10 formula, with 14-inch brake rotors gripped by Brembo 44/40 dual opposing piston calipers in the front and Brembo 42/38 dual opposing calipers in the rear. An anti-lock braking system (ABS) prevents lockup during hard braking. This system results in a benchmark braking performance of 60-to-0 mph in less than 100 feet.

    Handling

    The ride and handling of the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 is defined by a race-bred, fully independent, four-wheel suspension featuring lightweight, high-performance aluminum control arms and knuckles, damped by lightweight coil-over shock absorbers.

    Where the power goes right to the road, SRT engineers retained the tried-and-true Dana M44-4 rear axle and outfitted it with a new GKN Visco-Lok speed-sensing limited-slip differential for improved traction.

    The Dodge Viper SRT10 rides on polished, forged aluminum, 18 x 10-inch front and 19 x 13-inch rear wheels now available in three styles: the five-spoke, the H-spoke and the all-new Razor wheel with five U-shaped spokes. The wheels are clad in Michelin® Pilot® Sport PS2 tires. The four-groove tread-design tires provide maximum grip, reduced road noise and superior handling in both wet and dry conditions.

    Exterior Styling

    The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 features a dramatic new hood with a larger, more efficient hood scoop for air induction and larger, functional hood louvers to facilitate a greater cooling effect for the more powerful 8.4-liter, 600-horsepower V-10 engine underneath.

    Eight exterior colors will be introduced throughout the model year – five of which are all-new including Venom Red, Snakeskin Green, Viper Violet, Viper Orange and Bright Blue. Racing stripes continue to be an option with six dual painted stripe colors available: white, black, silver, graphite, blue and red.

    Interior

    The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 Roadster and Coupe cockpit retains its characteristic red push-button starter and performance-oriented, highly functional instrument panel with center-mounted tachometer and 220-mph speedometer.

    Five interior colors will be available in 2008: black, and four new color combinations in black/red, black/blue, black/slate or black/natural tan. A choice of bezel finishes on the center instrument panel and console adds to the increased level of customization.

    "The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 delivers die-hard performance enthusiasts a perfect combination of outrageous power, exceptional performance and stunning good looks," said Mike Accavitti, Director – Dodge Motorsports and SRT Marketing and Product Planning. "And now with a whole new range of interior and exterior colors and options to choose from, the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 redefines how a customer can personalize their Viper."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivey
    I don't see Dodge's logic. They didn't need to up the engine size and possibly add weight (it's already above 8-litres FFS!) to gain power. I'm sure they could find a LOT more than an additional 90 horsepower in the existing engine without upping the size. A TVR Sagaris/Tuscan S will get to 100 in 8 seconds...yes, that is correct, with a 4.0 Speed Six powerplant, so why does Dodge need an 8.4 V10 just to manage it in over 12?

    All of this is irrelevant though, what they need to do is make it handle. Chevrolet have managed it with the Corvette (Z06) as well as giving it tremendous pace. The Viper will have to beat this mix in order to "kill" the Corvette. If the stated changes are all that's being done it's already game, set and match to the Corvette.
    I dont see your logic, since when does air add weight? Displacement is NOT size of the engine...
    The point of adding displacement is they can make more USEABLE(flat torque curve) power while still in a relaxed state of tune.
    And lets not compare the cardboard Speed Six which wouldnt not pass emissions or crash tests here, which the Viper has to deal with.
    And as already stated, it does, and always has handled. You really need to stop watching top gear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisetdavid26
    I can't believe american manufacturers are still making bigger and bigger engines. Not just them in fact. Come on, gas prices skyrocketed last year, they went down I know, but darn it's still a 8.4 liter engine! Not to forget Earth seems tired of all that polution. As an exemple, it's the first time here in Quebec City that there was no snow on Christmas. First time in 399 years. Last year we had at least 3 feet of snow. And that was a calm year.

    Oh well, enough for my green side, anyway I don't think a Viper is made to have a 1.4-liter hybrid engine. I like the design of the car at lot. It just look aggressive. 600 hp is just insane, not to mention the car is lighter than the current SRT10, if that rumor turns out to be true. Can't wait to see this face the Z06 or the "Blue Devil" if it is ever produced.
    I cannot belive how ignorant you are...

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    I'm pretty sure the Viper is 50 state legal, which means it passes Nazifornia's CARB testing. And that's pretty clean.
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    WOW 600bhp from a 8.4l v10, Impressive! (pause)........................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............NOT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicks
    I dont see your logic, since when does air add weight? ...
    All other things being equal it DOES.
    It requres larger heads or larger bores with larger pistons or longer cranks.
    Of course better alloys and design can make the engine lighter/smaller, but that wasn't what you were asying was it ?
    The "larger" means more metal.
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    The compression on the car is 10.2:1 if im not mistaken if they would of raised it to 11.2:1 It would of made more horsepower without the engine.
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    This thread is filled with so much stupid and suck it's astounding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
    All other things being equal it DOES.
    It requres larger heads or larger bores with larger pistons or longer cranks.
    Of course better alloys and design can make the engine lighter/smaller, but that wasn't what you were asying was it ?
    The "larger" means more metal.

    The differences in weight would be minimal though, since it's the same block and for an extra .1L, spread across 10 pistons they're going to be about .00000000001" bigger.
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    Natural aspiration and large displacement is the fundamental design principle of the Viper. Therefore, the latest and greatest SRT Viper had to follow these basics. More displacement naturally makes it better at what it does, make prodigeous power with big inches not even very high compression much less forced induction.

    Even with a V10, the Viper's cylinders each displace 840 cc...
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