More like a handling downgrade from a vette...Originally Posted by bruxell
Either way, V8 miatas handle well, like it or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxFDtDwBVN0
More like a handling downgrade from a vette...Originally Posted by bruxell
Either way, V8 miatas handle well, like it or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxFDtDwBVN0
Your right, Id feel pretty dumb struggling to pass a minivan too in a stock Miata...Originally Posted by Ingolstadt
Its like going from this:
To this:
Macho, macho man...
Money can't buy you friends, but you do get a better class of enemy.
Underpowered for what? Surely such a suggestion is somewhat subjective? Underpowered for a fun & light roadster? No, not at all. And for what it's worth, I can't help but think that anyone who feels the need to "add balls" (your phase, not mine) to something is perhaps more than a little insecure.Originally Posted by Slicks
It doesn't matter how light you can get the wheel, the narrower version of any wheel is going to be lighter, likewise the tyre. It's not bloody rocket science.You do know that there are some really lightweight wheels out there, right? The stockers certainly arnt the end-all-be-all wheels...
Yeah, there are light sets of big brakes, but in the interest in not repeating myself, see previous comment.Brakes are usually the first thing upgraded for autox-ers, right? So there is no way you can find brakes that are lighter than stock?
I'm really sorry 'Bob', but although I think there's a question in there near the end, I don't think I can answer it. You see, right after the point where you suggested that it would be fine to triple the horsepower of a car without making the slightest modification to the standard brakes, my eyes began to glaze over and I sort of lost the will to live slightly. Sorry about that.Originally Posted by Bob
Seriously, have you driven a car with over 300hp before? Have you driven a Miata?Originally Posted by McReis
Lets take the Elise for example, although "only" 180hp, its significantly lighter than the Miata, giving it a really good power to weight ratio.Read about all the Lotus, Abarths and other tiny, underpowered but hugely fast cars and you will conclude that 90% of the times they are most sucessfull than the brute force racers.
Read all about LS1 swaps, a very common thing now, and its especially picked up in the d0rift0 world.
Smaller cars like the RX7s, S13/14s, 944s, 911s, you name it. They retain as good or better balance, and are usually lighter than stock...
No where Im I saying the Miata is "unsuccessful", some people just want more power out of them, and these eurofanboys need to stop crying about it and try and realise that handling isnt the most important thing to some people.
Apparently not for Mazda, seeing they went with 16s and 17s for the 05 modelThe simple difference in the weight of the tires would be enough to make a difference. And yes, the stock wheels of most Miatas are extremely light. Specially the 14'' Minilite look-a-likes that are standard on the NA model (the one being destroyed in the picture). They are considered very advanced.
But I guess 14'' never look masculine enough, right?
I'm assuming that's a tongue in cheek remark. At least I hope so...Originally Posted by Slicks
Go figure...Originally Posted by VtecMini
Underpowered by the standards of sports cars today. Theres no getting around it, 15 seconds is slow no matter what the car is, thats minivan acceleration. And Im not just going by numbers here, again Ive driven one, the acceleration had both my friend and I red faced from laughing so hard.
Were not talking about the narrower version of a single wheel, were talking about the stock version vs a lightweight aftermarket one. Like I was saying before, the stockers arnt the end all be all.It doesn't matter how light you can get the wheel, the narrower version of any wheel is going to be lighter, likewise the tyre. It's not bloody rocket science.
See above.Yeah, there are light sets of big brakes, but in the interest in not repeating myself, see previous comment.
You did pretty good then. When introduced facts or anything that goes against what eurofanboy standards say, most of them black out.I'm really sorry 'Bob', but although I think there's a question in there near the end, I don't think I can answer it. You see, right after the point where you suggested that it would be fine to triple the horsepower of a car without making the slightest modification to the standard brakes, my eyes began to glaze over and I sort of lost the will to live slightly. Sorry about that.
I personally love the Euro, at least it has much more purchasing power than the dollarOriginally Posted by Slicks
"I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting, but it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously." Douglas Adams
It's not a drag racer. It's not designed for top-end or straight line speed, but rather corners.Originally Posted by Slicks
I'm dropping out to create a company that starts with motorcycles, then cars, and forty years later signs a legendary Brazilian driver who has a public and expensive feud with his French teammate.
Excellent video.Originally Posted by Slicks
...cept for theose who hold the view that handling wouldnt' suffer
That was the most skittish I've ever seen an MX-5, it wasn't particularly fast and there are major issues with the rear end squat and rebound.
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
cept we all know the body-builder has a pencil-dick from the drugs "upgrade"Originally Posted by Slicks
Besides it's not how MUCH you've got it's how you use it
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
that was the group in Norfolk VA that I autoxed with never saw that one out there though.. had to miss that autox. think i was underwayOriginally Posted by Slicks
Honor. Courage. Commitment. Etcetera.
15 sec 1/4 time seems reasonable for a cheap two seat roadsterOriginally Posted by Slicks
Andreas Preuninger, Manager of Porsche High Performance Cars: "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging."
Oh. I didn't realize that if you had a powerful car with not so powerful brakes you would be stupid enough to push it all the way to it's top speed. I was assuming that anyone reading my post would be intelligent enough to understand that I was proposing an LSx Miata as something to mess around with and have fun in. No it's not a race car, it's a car you can drive every day, and take to the track on weekends. On every corner you get the adrenaline rush of pushing it right to the limit of traction and being on the edge of spinning. To make an LSx Miata into a trackcar, would pretty much destroy it as a Miata. To drive an LSx Miata like a trackcar or even a regular sportscar would be reckless and idiotic. The point of it is to have something wildly overpowered thats fun to drive and corners well, if not as well as a stock Miata.Originally Posted by VtecMini
I'm more interested in this less than 15 second minivan we are theoretically struggling to overtake.Originally Posted by clutch-monkey
If I was going to put a different engine in an MX-5 I wouldn't have used and LS, but then what is this car going to be used for, maybe its entirly appropriate?
PPC - Put a V8 in it!
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