gto or 350z

[kingofthering]

Naw, for mad dorifto! You need 350 wit Twn Turboz and NOZZZZ!!!

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I think if you bought the GTO and then uprated the looks tastefully- say, some Boyd Coddington Smoothies and a full Holden bodykit, it could look the shit. Check this beastie out, and tell me that the 350Z looks better:

[Monty_Burns]

Yeah....agreed. I dont know what they were thinking when they were redesigning the front of the GTO...they said it wasnt aggressive enough for a GTO - meanwhile, HSV (Holden's tuning arm) had been doing a far better job of giving the Monaro a gaudy look - and they've been exporting it to the UK rebadged as the VXR for some time now......poor America

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Yeah....agreed. I dont know what they were thinking when they were redesigning the front of the GTO...they said it wasnt aggressive enough for a GTO - meanwhile, HSV (Holden's tuning arm) had been doing a far better job of giving the Monaro a gaudy look - and they've been exporting it to the UK rebadged as the VXR for some time now......poor America

The GTO looks tame to me- pretty boring, actually. When I saw the first Monaro in Britain, I thought it looked wild. After the 400bhp and 500bhp VXR versions, I kinda changed my mind, that one I posted just looks badass

[STREETFIRE]

I love the 350Z personally. Quick, sexy curves, and the potential for quite a bit more hp. The GTO is just an ugly beast, and in my opinion if massive hp is what you're looking for there are much better routes to get it.

I like the 350Z too. GTO's ugly. But LS2 pwns. And so does the VXR 500, because LS2 V8 + supercharger = 503hp pwnage.
BTW, twin turbos on the 350Z wouldn't hurt either.
And Vauxhall dyno'd the VXR 500 at 503bhp, they just like to understate power figures.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

And Vauxhall dyno'd the VXR 500 at 503bhp, they just like to understate power figures.

3bhp is hardly a cause for consternation...

[sicilian973-2]

ill go for the gto.6.0 v8 over the overused 3.5l nissan engine

[SlickHolden]

If it's drifting the sleeping giant is the Monaro GTO.
Plus you can fit fatty s in it and get the girls in the back easier. And it's going too sound better and be cheaper in the long run.

[digitalcraft]

screw them both. You need a Honda. And stickers. Lots and lots of stickers.

[LandQuail]

The 350 looks like a mutant cross between a celica and a daihatsu sirion... I imagine it goes like a piece of shit off a shiny new shovel

Very nice. I've not heard that one before, and will try to use it at least once this week in mixed company.

Anyway, you, the kid trying to decide between a GTO and Z whose name I can't remember, if you loved the Firebird, then go for the GTO.

I drove one of those damn things for a little while. It had tons of power and tons of grip, but the chassis was awful. It wallowed over crests and rolled and pitched like a truck, which you'd think would make it a willing companion on long trips out pock-marked country roads (much as an actual truck is), but no, the ****ing thing was an unmitigated and nightmarish failure on poorly-surfaced roads. The ride was terrible and, while you could pour all the power you wanted in billiards table-smooth second-gear corners, even the most minute mid-corner bump threw everything to hell in a cocked hat and you'd be lucky not to spin.

Doubtless, the Monaro is worlds better than the Firebird, with an even better engine (never a V-8 Firebird's weak suit).

Getting a 350Z to make V8 torque, while absolutely possible, is 'spensive and can spoil the car's drivability if done wrong. At any rate, you'll never get the "pulling out into traffic holeshot" of a deep-chested V8 from the Z's comparatively meager V6, and I think that's what you're looking for, rather than the chassis sophistication and subtleties of the Z.

If you take offense to my saying you wouldn't appreciate subtleties, well, you're looking to 3-Fast 3-Furious to base your $30,000 car choices.

[Slicks]

Very nice. I've not heard that one before, and will try to use it at least once this week in mixed company.

Anyway, you, the kid trying to decide between a GTO and Z whose name I can't remember, if you loved the Firebird, then go for the GTO.

I drove one of those damn things for a little while. It had tons of power and tons of grip, but the chassis was awful. It wallowed over crests and rolled and pitched like a truck, which you'd think would make it a willing companion on long trips out pock-marked country roads (much as an actual truck is), but no, the ****ing thing was an unmitigated and nightmarish failure on poorly-surfaced roads. The ride was terrible and, while you could pour all the power you wanted in billiards table-smooth second-gear corners, even the most minute mid-corner bump threw everything to hell in a cocked hat and you'd be lucky not to spin.

Doubtless, the Monaro is worlds better than the Firebird, with an even better engine (never a V-8 Firebird's weak suit).

Getting a 350Z to make V8 torque, while absolutely possible, is 'spensive and can spoil the car's drivability if done wrong. At any rate, you'll never get the "pulling out into traffic holeshot" of a deep-chested V8 from the Z's comparatively meager V6, and I think that's what you're looking for, rather than the chassis sophistication and subtleties of the Z.

If you take offense to my saying you wouldn't appreciate subtleties, well, you're looking to 3-Fast 3-Furious to base your $30,000 car choices.

What firebird did you own?

[Gtek-i]

Does the Holden count as a GTO? If so, I'll take it over the Z

[Ferrer]

Does the Holden count as a GTO? If so, I'll take it over the Z

The Holden Monaro and the Pontiac GTO are the same car with some subtle differencem like the grille and where is the steering wheel...

[clutch-monkey]

The Holden Monaro and the Pontiac GTO are the same car with some subtle differencem like the grille and where is the steering wheel...

...and the GTO is equipped with smaller wheels and has no cup holders, and the monaro was never sold in the US as is, so is not an option for Gtek-i to choose..

[Daz27]

I wonder how the Munro would have looked with the VZ front end, or even the VX front, I always thought the VT front looked dated, even when it came out new. If I was to choose between the two, I'd still choose the GTO, but, I'd be getten in touch with a Holden dealer here in Oz, and arranging to have the stock bonnet, and body kit sent over, and, maybe all the suspension bits the yanks must have pulled out of the car to get that 'magic carpet' ride they love in big cars so much. Oh, I'd also get a set of Holden 19' rims maybe off a GTS...
Oh, and clutch, theres no point having cup holders in a car if they cant hold the 'cups' (buckets) the americans use... Super size me.... Suuuper dooooper doooooper size me on the coke maam....