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    All Wheel drive better than Rear wheel

    In my experience, rear wheel drive is nowhere near the performance of the four wheel drive. Four wheel drive offers the unrivaled stability and outstanding grip on almost any surface, which is something no rear wheel drive car can attain. The supremacy is obvious in BMW's, which turn to pricy sleds when the snow falls. I'm wandering, what are your thoughts on this?

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    Rwd > Awd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tihomir
    The supremacy is obvious in BMW's, which turn to pricy sleds when the snow falls.
    since snow is non-existent here, and probably just a myth started by the northern hemisphere, that is never really a problem. unless you plan on going off road, AWD is in a lot of cases a redundant, weighty gimmick, utlized by manufacturers who can't refine a RWD chassis effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tihomir
    All race cars are not RWD, Rally cars are almost exclusively AWD
    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey
    unless you plan on going off road, AWD is in a lot of cases a redundant
    thanks captain obvious
    Quote Originally Posted by Tihomir
    And all the examples you submitted are on the upper high edge of automotive technology, where acceleration is one of the features that is necessary.
    the examples are also a lot about handling too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tihomir
    For any level of driving below the profesional circuit, AWD is king.
    define professional circuit. in amateur track days and sprints most of the people drive RWD sports cars, AWD is definately the minority, and definately not near the front of th epack either.... hell, i drive a fwd in autocross.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tihomir
    AWD is king.
    less skilled drivers may find AWD king, yes.
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    But what about the AWD systems that have a 20-80 power distribution. Those seem like the best of both worlds. They have the regular RWD feel, while being able to shift to a power distribution more suitable for fine handling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tihomir
    But what about the AWD systems that have a 20-80 power distribution. Those seem like the best of both worlds. They have the regular RWD feel, while being able to shift to a power distribution more suitable for fine handling.
    so why not just have RWD then? rather than add weight and corrupt steering feel, you could just have a finely balanced rwd instead. or, just a decent traction control system.
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    It all depends, on a dry surface in normal everyday driving, most drivers won't be able to tell the difference between one or the other. On a rainy day, an AWD system would be my choice, specially on a windy road.

    As far as snowy conditions go, an AWD car or SUV is preferable but may not be enough. I saw an interesting story this morning showing that AWD cars and trucks with all season tyres didn't fair very well at speeds even as low as 20 MPH in making turns or simple accident avoidance maneuvers. Once they switched to winter tyres, the handling improved dramatically. The turns and maneuvers they couldn't make with the all season rubber were easily made on winter tyres.

    My point, no matter what drive line system you may have, RWD or AWD, they are only as good as the tyres you slap on them IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tihomir
    But what about the AWD systems that have a 20-80 power distribution. Those seem like the best of both worlds. They have the regular RWD feel, while being able to shift to a power distribution more suitable for fine handling.
    Such a rear bisaed 4WD system is pointless in my opinion. You've got all the disadvantages of 4WD (higer fuel consumption, high transmission loses) with none of the advantages (traction)...
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    Isn't a 20/80 Front => Rear distribution essentially Rear Wheel Drive?
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    NO! IT'S NOT!!! It is a power distribution of 20 percent of the power to the front wheels, while 80 percent of the power goes to the rear wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tihomir
    NO! IT'S NOT!!!
    Stop yelling at me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefella
    Stop yelling at me.
    oh men! i just love the man to man sensitivity in this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kigango123
    oh men! i just love the man to man sensitivity in this forum.
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