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    Personally I think that current hybrid trends and technology have already gotten the boot by the electric car.

    Tesla Electric car that is. It has a high performance electric motor (whos torque curve puts anything revetec has made to shame )

    0-60 in about 4 seconds
    250 miles per charge
    World beating well-to-wheel efficiency.
    And it is a sports car with great handling and good looks.

    Something I could definately drive and be happy about.
    Power, whether measured as HP, PS, or KW is what accelerates cars and gets it up to top speed. Power also determines how far you take a wall when you hit it
    Engine torque is an illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hightower99 View Post
    Personally I think that current hybrid trends and technology have already gotten the boot by the electric car.

    Tesla Electric car that is. It has a high performance electric motor (whos torque curve puts anything revetec has made to shame )

    0-60 in about 4 seconds
    250 miles per charge
    World beating well-to-wheel efficiency.
    And it is a sports car with great handling and good looks.

    Something I could definately drive and be happy about.
    thats only CO2 saving if the power plants are not coal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jediali View Post
    thats only CO2 saving if the power plants are not coal!
    It saves whatever fuel you use to make electric power if you are using fossil resources

    Using renewable resources it will go further per unit energy you make.

    Actually even if you got the power from a coal powered generating station it would generate less CO2 and other pollutants (unburnt HC, NOX, ect.) than if you used the energy in a car with a ICE.

    Brilliant idea really. I just hope that range and charging time are the things they are trying to improve.
    Power, whether measured as HP, PS, or KW is what accelerates cars and gets it up to top speed. Power also determines how far you take a wall when you hit it
    Engine torque is an illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hightower99 View Post
    It saves whatever fuel you use to make electric power if you are using fossil resources

    Using renewable resources it will go further per unit energy you make.

    Actually even if you got the power from a coal powered generating station it would generate less CO2 and other pollutants (unburnt HC, NOX, ect.) than if you used the energy in a car with a ICE.

    Brilliant idea really. I just hope that range and charging time are the things they are trying to improve.
    good point
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    Quote Originally Posted by revetec View Post
    No engine braking ....Her car is an auto. henk4's must be using engine braking or he drives only half as aggressive as my wife.
    I think he does both...
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    HAving driven the Prius - a considered purchase over a year ago - it is not bad in teh family-mover sense.
    It has reasonable pull and comfortable drive but some major drawbacks.
    Interior is very cheap and no sense of "well built" - they have worked too hard to reduce weight !
    THe transmission is set up for average 4 adults. So NO TOWING, and when asked about putting heavy items in the boot the salesmen got very cagey
    It used petrol engine !! Consumption and emissions no better overall than the diesels available.
    Very unapealling drive. Nothing badly wrong, but nothing great either.

    As I said a reasonable people mover, but no real benefit in being "hybrid" except for tax and charges as JC says -- but add a $1 9v motor driving via an elastic band to a drive shaft or enging pulley as then it truly is hybrid ( typical Clarkson lack of understanding to think jsut hte battery is enough )
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    I wouldn't buy a Prius, but I'd consider other Hybrids, such as the Civic.
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    The only hibrid i'd consider to buy would be the Gs450h, until the car makers decide to mate a diesel with and electric engine there's no need to buy a gas/eletric hibrid if your thinking in fuel cosumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hightower99 View Post
    Personally I think that current hybrid trends and technology have already gotten the boot by the electric car.

    Tesla Electric car that is. It has a high performance electric motor (whos torque curve puts anything revetec has made to shame )

    0-60 in about 4 seconds
    250 miles per charge
    World beating well-to-wheel efficiency.
    And it is a sports car with great handling and good looks.

    Something I could definately drive and be happy about.
    Oh Hightower...

    So now you are going to compare engines with motors?

    You may not know but Revetec has 50% marketing rights to a hybrid system technology. The electric wheel hub motors are 97% efficient and 98% efficient as used as a generator.

    I actually ran seminars on our Hybrid system at the Automechanica show in China. It is fully tested and has been in production for many years in another transportation industry and it has been fitted to a Lotus for continued testing.
    Last edited by revetec; 02-15-2007 at 02:45 PM.

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    Lexus GS400h's battery only lastsw something like 8mi so most of the time you're running on the V6 yet you can get round London and ol' Kenny can't charge you jack s**t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall View Post
    Lexus GS400h's battery only lastsw something like 8mi so most of the time you're running on the V6 yet you can get round London and ol' Kenny can't charge you jack s**t.
    But my god it's ugly and bland...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    But my god it's ugly and bland...
    It's not that bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall View Post
    It's not that bad
    Not on it's own. But considering the competition... for instance I happen not to like my uncle's A6 that much, but compared to the Lexus..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Not on it's own. But considering the competition... for instance I happen not to like my uncle's A6 that much, but compared to the Lexus..
    In ascending order it'd be

    Audi A6
    Volvo S80
    Lexus GS
    Mercedes E-Class
    BMW 5-Series
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall View Post
    In ascending order it'd be

    Audi A6
    Volvo S80
    Lexus GS
    Mercedes E-Class
    BMW 5-Series
    And in top of all them the Citroen C6, the Lancia Thesis, the Alfa Romeo 166 and the Mercedes-Benz CLS.
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