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  1. 05-01-2007, 03:47 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by my porsche View Post
    Don't they slow to around 125 on the turn?
    I don't know because I don't watch it. One of my Cadillac friends does, though, so I'll ask him next time I see him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickHolden View Post
    High Five!
    What is your reaction time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    it kind of is ... you steer on the straights to keep it goign in a straight line so you dont' ahv eto put too much in on the corners.
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    What about Pocono or Watkins Glen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    What about Pocono or Watkins Glen?
    Or Infineon! Yes! Oh Yeah! Right turns.. yes!

    C'mon d00ds, NASCAR is a nice thing to watch on a lazy Sunday morning with a tall glass of beer and a plate of hot food. You guys can cry and yell all you want about 'dem rednex and da beer kans, but I like NASCAR and I'll defend it to the death. Plus, 20-30 drunken southern rebels throwing cans of Budweiser =/= riot. THIS is a riot.

    About it's ease of 'mastery', Juan Pablo Montoya hasn't been demolishing the competition in any of the races this season (I think his best finish is 3rd), and he has a very competent car, with a very distinguished racing resume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    it kind of is ... you steer on the straights to keep it goign in a straight line so you dont' ahv eto put too much in on the corners.
    Silly
    I actually watched hte end of that race.
    29 cars all withgin 3 seconds of each other because of cautions.
    How is that racing ????
    It's interesting that there have been rumours and whispers amongst NASCAR fans for a while now about the so-called "Phantom Yellows" being thrown in the closing laps of the race to bunch the fields up for a grandstand finish. Last week there was even dissension amongst the ranks of the NASCAR elite with two-time champ Tony Stewart comparing NASCAR to WWE wrestling with the way it rigs the finishes for entertainment value...

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    CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Two-time champion Tony Stewart likened NASCAR to professional wrestling and accused it of using bogus caution flags to shape races in biting comments made on his weekly radio show.

    Stewart's appearance on his Tuesday night show was his first since skipping a post-race press conference in Phoenix. He dominated Saturday night's race but lost after a late exchange of leads with winner Jeff Gordon. Stewart said he refused interviews to avoid bashing NASCAR after officials threw four cautions for debris on the track.

    "It's like playing God," he said on his Sirius Satellite Radio program. "They can almost dictate the race instead of the drivers doing it. It's happened too many times this year."

    Stewart, who said he was fighting a fever and left the two-hour show early, went on to say fans are complaining about debris cautions and NASCAR isn't listening.

    "I guess NASCAR thinks 'Hey, wrestling worked, and it was for the most part staged, so I guess it's going to work in racing, too,"' he said. "I can't understand how long the fans are going to let NASCAR treat them like they're stupid before the fans finally turn on NASCAR.

    "I don't know that they've run a fair race all year."

    NASCAR called Stewart's comments "very, very disappointing."

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    "To me, it's not all about the money, it's about the integrity of the sport," he said on his radio program. "When I feel our own sanctioning body isn't taking care of that, it's hard to support them and feel proud about being a driver in the Nextel Cup Series when they're throwing debris cautions."
    His comments may well have been prompted more out of frustration than anything else, but everything clearly isn't rosy in the land of NASCAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Bauer View Post
    His comments may well have been prompted more out of frustration than anything else, but everything clearly isn't rosy in the land of NASCAR.
    Yeah, it's been a big problem lately. Towards the end of the race, stewards are told to throw the yellow flag for debris cautions, but the debris is either non-existent or something so small on the infield that has no effect on the cars. They feel that bunching the group of cars together at the end will provide an exciting finish for the fans, but everyone's getting sick of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Bauer View Post
    It's interesting that there have been rumours and whispers amongst NASCAR fans for a while now about the so-called "Phantom Yellows" being thrown in the closing laps of the race to bunch the fields up for a grandstand finish. Last week there was even dissension amongst the ranks of the NASCAR elite with two-time champ Tony Stewart comparing NASCAR to WWE wrestling with the way it rigs the finishes for entertainment value...



    His comments may well have been prompted more out of frustration than anything else, but everything clearly isn't rosy in the land of NASCAR.

    I think NASCAR is starting to self destruct.
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    You're right, there should have been bloody riots in the streets. Don't ignorant american sports fans know how to riot correctly?! sheesh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan View Post
    I think NASCAR is starting to self destruct.
    At least it has fans. Cough, ALMS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan View Post
    I think NASCAR is starting to self destruct.
    God I hope so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo.Jenkens View Post
    True, but it was Martinsville. A couple of seasons ago he did wreck Jimmy Johnson for a win, though I can't remember which race. It wasn't the first time either. Sorry I can't site a better instance, but I'm not a NASCAR fan. I just live in the middle of NASCAR country and repeat what i hear at work on mondays.
    He would NEVER wreck Jimmie Johnson, they're teammates.

    As for Dale Jr, he's been suffering from bad luck, because he's not that bad of a driver. Earnharts Sr. and Jr. swept the 24hrs. of Daytona several years ago and Dale Jr.'s did some racing for the Corvette team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefella View Post
    At least it has fans. Cough, ALMS.
    Hey! Shut it! ALMS is the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by my porsche View Post
    God I hope so.
    I kinda wish it would turn into V8 Supercars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefella View Post
    At least it has fans. Cough, ALMS.
    The only reason ALMS doesn't have fans is because of NASCAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefella View Post
    About it's ease of 'mastery', Juan Pablo Montoya hasn't been demolishing the competition in any of the races this season (I think his best finish is 3rd), and he has a very competent car, with a very distinguished racing resume.
    Didn't he take first on some road course in Mexico?
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