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    Quote Originally Posted by Niko_Fx View Post
    Nobody feels it's fair to pay $90k for a 280hp car.
    It's fair considering it could go around tracks faster than many 400hp american cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    That is isn't exactly true...
    Ford have never won.
    Jaguar was a disaster and it was Stewarts designers and engineers who gave Ford money it's closest win before they bought him out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Ford have never won.
    Jaguar was a disaster and it was Stewarts designers and engineers who gave Ford money it's closest win before they bought him out
    didn't Herbert win in Germany for Stewart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    oh yeah, Ford has lots of "heritage" and Honda has noen ??
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    What I really don't get is that how come Honda doesn't do any marketing about their racing heritage?

    It's there, I don't see why they don't use it more often in advertisements and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R View Post
    What I really don't get is that how come Honda doesn't do any marketing about their racing heritage?

    It's there, I don't see why they don't use it more often in advertisements and stuff.
    they always bring historic racing heritage to modern motorshow and to events like the Goodwood Festival of Speed.
    This year the IAA motorshow in Frankfurt saw the RA300 (Hondola) F1 car two motorcycles and a racing version of the S600.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    didn't Herbert win in Germany for Stewart?
    yes ... while it was Stewart Racing.
    Once sold to Jaguar they went down hill

    Honda DO use their racing heritage occasionaly ... when we get chance to see the RA300 and the bikes in their ads BUT they don't think that it is what makes most of their cars sell. In bikes they use the heritage all the time ... they are still a bike company at heart I reckon
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    didn't Herbert win in Germany for Stewart?
    Holy crap! You're right!

    Johnny Herbert won the 1999 European Grand Prix at Nurburgring with Stewart-Ford! And more amazing too, Rubens Barrichello got 3rd at the same Grand Prix with Stewart-Ford!

    1999 European Grand Prix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    yes ... while it was Stewart Racing.
    Once sold to Jaguar they went down hill
    How much Ford was Stewart Racing??
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    How much Ford was Stewart Racing??
    The money and the engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    The money and the engine
    not an insignificant part, I would say..
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    not an insignificant part, I would say..
    true. But regardless they were NEVER able to manage to do all of it on their own.
    Engines == good.
    Whole cars == bad.
    Kind of sums up Ford really
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    they always bring historic racing heritage to modern motorshow and to events like the Goodwood Festival of Speed.
    This year the IAA motorshow in Frankfurt saw the RA300 (Hondola) F1 car two motorcycles and a racing version of the S600.....
    I'd love to see those cars in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R View Post
    What I really don't get is that how come Honda doesn't do any marketing about their racing heritage?

    It's there, I don't see why they don't use it more often in advertisements and stuff.
    They have. I'll rustle up some stuff. But it doesn't mention any JGTC stuff.

    Don't forget the VTEC, though... that's some siek F1 tech there.
    I'm dropping out to create a company that starts with motorcycles, then cars, and forty years later signs a legendary Brazilian driver who has a public and expensive feud with his French teammate.

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    They use their racing heritage in marketing all the time, in fact they overuse it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiggs View Post
    "I drive a Ferrari." > "I drive a Honda/Acura."
    No because it had the heritage behind. 4 Le Mans wins always help.
    The Ford GT does, Ford by itself doesn't. Following Quiggs' example:

    "I spent $160K on a Ferrari > I spent $160K on a Ford"

    Doesn't make sense either, does it?

    Now, "I spent $160k on a Ford GT" (ballpark figure, I don't really know the price) makes just as much sense as saying" I spent $90k on an Acura / Honda NSX."

    It's fair considering it could go around tracks faster than many 400hp american cars.
    You and I know that, the average consumer doesn't.

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