Oz elections

[crisis]

Finally someone I can relate to.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

z0mg you are my hero.

The only reason I would ever vote liberal willingly

[henk4]

just read the scandal about the phoney flyer....Howard seems to have learned the dirty tricks from his great leader GWB....

[2ndclasscitizen]

That's why he gooooooooooooooooooooooooooorne.

[john14]

Australian elections are not as bad as the previous American elections with their crooked electronic voting machines in Florida.

[crisis]

just read the scandal about the phoney flyer....Howard seems to have learned the dirty tricks from his great leader GWB....

Dont be like that, John said he knew nothing about it!

[nota]

Want to see a summary of the current govt's fear-campaign during this election?

The 7.30 Report - ABC .. scroll menu on the right to select 'Clarke, Dawe and the politics of fear'



Refers to:
Prime Minister John Howard from the conservative Liberal Party with Health Minister Tony Abbott (chief head-kicker aka govt's attack dog)

Labor Party opposition leader Kevin Rudd with deputy leader Julia Gillard of Labor's 'socialist left'

[Blue Supra]

boo urns is all i have to say about it

[nota]

Maybe a few of you might be interested in this from yesterday's SMH newspaper

Steve Biddulph
November 29, 2007
Page 1 of 2 | Single page
Steve Biddulph:

The Liberal Party is in trauma. The corporate sector is attempting to calm its nerves, and even the victors in the Labor Party cannot quite believe the seismic change in the landscape of power. But the ramifications of last Saturday may be much greater than just one election won or lost. In a way that seems unthinkable to us now, 2007 may mark the end of the Liberal Party itself. It won't happen overnight, but just watch it happen.

We are so conditioned to the idea that two main parties define politics, we even call them left and right as if they were parts of our body. But parties spring up in response to the primary tensions in a certain time and place. In the 20th century that polarisation was capital versus labour. A century earlier, before even the idea of power among the working poor, politics was aristocrats versus tradesmen, the growing middle class of shopkeepers and artisans that formed the basis of the Tories.

This is no longer the central tension in modern democracies. Centrist governments cover all the bases, and conservative politics has begun to wither away. This is a change that has come late to Australia. But social evolution is now speeding up and even this alignment is becoming dated.

The issue of the future, coming down on us now like a steam train, is of course the environment, the double hammer blows of climate change and peak oil. Energy, weather and human misery are the factors that will define our lives for decades to come. You can cancel your newspaper, those are the only four words you need to know.

Linked to this, but compounding it in frightening ways, is the imminent demise of the United States economy. In fact the whisper, the subplot in economist circles, was that this election was one to lose. That whoever inherited Australia in 2007 inherited a coming economic collapse in globalised trade that would suck Australia and much of the rest of the world down with it. For two years now the best predictions have been that the subprime meltdown would act as merely the detonator of a much larger explosive charge created long ago by US consumer debt, concealed by Chinese and Arab investment in keeping that great hungry maw that is America sucking in what it could not begin to pay for. The avalanche-like fall of US house prices will be closely followed by the same in linked economies worldwide, and presage a harsh and very different world than the one we have lived in. In short, the party is over. We are a civilisation in collapse.

Labor is the right party to manage this. Despite the widespread belief after years of cynical politics that politicians are all the same, Rudd and Gillard are not in power for power's sake. I am willing to stake my 30 years as a psychologist on this, but I think many observers have also come to this conclusion. Kevin and Julia, as Australia already calls them, want to make this country a better place for the people in it. In the coming times of deprivation, they have the value systems that will be needed to care for the sudden rise in poverty, stress, and need. They also have the unity.

So what will be the new polarity in future elections? It's the ecology, stupid. The Greens will emerge as the new opposition, though this will take probably two election cycles. By the 2010 election, 20 per cent will vote Green, simply because peak oil and climate catastrophe will have proven them right, and thinking people will see the need for austerity now for our children's tomorrow. The Liberal Party will be lucky to attract 30 per cent, which is the habitual, rusted-on portion of the community that thinks greed is good.

By 2014, we will have a struggle between a new left and right - Labor and Green - and the issue will be simply how green, how to balance the need for a much simpler and more communal kind of life, with the need to give people comfort and amenity now. This issue will continue to define life for the rest of this century.

Climate change will bring horrific costs this century unless a global effort is rallied in a way that has never been done before to regulate our gluttonous use of the air and water. Perhaps a billion lives are at risk, let alone 2 to 3 billion refugees, as agriculture and water supplies collapse across southern Asia and elsewhere, and producer countries, like Australia, find they can barely feed themselves.

The big lie of Liberal supremacy was economic management. In fact, they knew how to generate income, but not how to spend it. We could have been building what Europe built in this past decade - superb hospitals, bullet trains, schools and training centres, low cost public transport of luxurious quality, magnificent public housing. We pissed it all away on tax giveaways and consumer goods. On bloated homes that we will not be able to cool or heat, or sell, and cars we won't be able to afford to drive. A party based on self interest may evaporate along with our rivers and lakes, and have no role to play in a world where we co-operate or die.

[SlickHolden]

Stiflers mum, I ****ed it ohhhh.. .ADC.


Abbott "Shit Happens"

I tell you something Labor found a great leader his name is Steve Bracks.. He's a guy that is the first i have known that is as in the middle as you can find between the 2 party's... Unions have at times called him anti Union, Liberals have called him over spending on projects to the state.. But he brings the budget home every time with a nice big fat Surplus the state is run like no other labor man has run it before..

Then he blows out because his thick son got done drink driving..
I believe the Federal Labor have found one that might be like him, Committed to keeping the budget fine even if it knocks a few upper and lower around the wrong way at times, But be a 50/50 man as close as it gets.