The Lotus Elise R vs. the Mini Cooper S JCW. Both are small, English, fun and have about 190hp, but couldn't be more different. What's your call?
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The Lotus Elise R vs. the Mini Cooper S JCW. Both are small, English, fun and have about 190hp, but couldn't be more different. What's your call?
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Elise cause Mini's are everywhere...
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the elise, because if i wanted a mini i'd get a real one, not the whale on sale to yuppies and fashion designers today.
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Elise please.
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Elise. Same reasoning as clutch.
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I voted Elise, but I'd be real tempted by the mini... for one thing there's more lotuses than minis around here. Maybe if it was the van...
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For everyday the Mini no doubt, for blast in a twisty country road the Lotus.
By the way doesn't the latest Mini have like 210bhp or so?
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That is EXACTLY what i was gonna say. Also, The Lotus'll be more reliable than the fat ugly piece of crap.Originally Posted by clutch-monkey
Yes indeed
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you mean the clubman? It's a bleedin monstrosity.
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A BMW-Engined, BMW-Engineered conservatively revving supermini vs a high revving engine renound for catching on fire regularly from a small company based in a warehouse in Hethel. Well done, you've made a completley unfounded comment!
In the Exige I had real fears that it was going to set alight. If you went under 20mph for more than 15 minutes, the radiator in the front clam would start to smoke infront of the windscreen and the cabin temperature would start to get unbearable, as would the smell of burning oil. However, it would have been hard to set alight seeing as everytime it rained water would gush into the cabin through the gaping window seals ... I now know what it is like to be incontinent.
Regardless of this, the Elise. I've never driven a new Mini, but I wouldn't trade the smile a Lotus puts on my face for anything (even if it does burn fuel and oil like no tomorrow).
Last edited by :Exige:; 03-02-2008 at 03:54 AM.
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^ rover K engined or toyota engined?
and aren't the mini engines from mexico..
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...and by Clubman, do you mean the Countryman...
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Both the K-series and the Toyota engines have overheating problems. Admittedly the Toyota engine is much more refined (and unfortunately less balsy than the S1), it still has the same smoking radiator and firey engine problem but to a lesser extent. Still, by no means reliable.
Interesting link for you Lotus Elise Problems
Interesting pic for you http://www.elisetrophy.com/file_repo...ire_1024px.jpg
Last edited by :Exige:; 03-02-2008 at 04:12 AM.
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No, in a classic piece of historical abuse, BMW applied the Clubman name to the countryman version......and by Clubman, do you mean the Countryman...
Why you may ask ?? Well, in an oversight the equal of the Rolls-Royce name debacle, BMW didn't buy the rights to use the Countryman name .... but DID buy the Clubman name.
So they coudl either have produced an odd, square-fronted MINI with the correct name or produced an odder, square-backed MINI and try to fob off the old name on idiots
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cheers. a quick scan of the first link seems to indicate it's mainly the earlier lotus' that are the worst? are those produced in the last 2 years any better?Both the K-series and the Toyota engines have overheating problems. Admittedly the Toyota engine is much more refined (and unfortunately less balsy than the S1), it still has the same smoking radiator and firey engine problem but to a lesser extent. Still, by no means reliable.
Interesting link for you Lotus Elise Problems
Interesting pic for you http://www.elisetrophy.com/file_repo...ire_1024px.jpg
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