Automotive Photography Competition #172

[pat_ernzen]

Sure wouldn't mind seeing the EXIF data on this shot.
JT

1/30s
F/4.5
17mm
ISO-400

A fair amount was done to it, including more or less manual HDR. And since I looked that up, I found the day. May 15th, 2008.

[henk4]

Because the object is coming nearly straight at the camera and likely, quite quickly. With such a shallow DOF, that's going to blur/soften pretty quickly (as he mentioned).

and the good photographer might know exactly when the object will be in the right spot..

[henk4]

Yes. But, that was not the shot I wanted.

Surely, I don't need to defend my panning skills too. LOL

Here's a similar shot from yesterday. 1/800

well, that shot also shows static wheels....how do we know (and now with no other cars in the background) that the car was moving?
Just asking you this because an earlier shot of mine (Ferrari 312) was (rightly) critisised for not showing enough action due to a too fast shutterspeed...(do you remember, Pat?)

[pat_ernzen]

and the good photographer might know exactly when the object will be in the right spot..

The with a long shutter and tiny DOF, "right spot" moves, which was my point. If the car is moving quickly enough and the DOF is shallow enough, it's going to be in and out of that "right spot" before the shutter closes.

(do you remember, Pat?)

No. I tend not to criticize unless feedback is requested and I don't remember the shot. I agree with John that Wouter's initial comment (regardless of his intentions) came across less as a question and more as a statement that he was doing something wrong.

[henk4]

The with a long shutter and tiny DOF, "right spot" moves, which was my point. If the car is moving quickly enough and the DOF is shallow enough, it's going to be in and out of that "right spot" before the shutter closes.

that depends on the camera...

[henk4]

No. I tend not to criticize unless feedback is requested and I don't remember the shot. I agree with John that Wouter's initial comment (regardless of his intentions) came across less as a question and more as a statement that he was doing something wrong.

To refresh your memory
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...64-voting.html

[pat_ernzen]

that depends on the camera...

True, that is a possibility, but not always a reliable one. Admittedly, I have only limited track photography experience (four or five events), but a lot of panning experience. I think the shot is great and while there isn't a ton of motion in the wheels, there's still some.

To refresh your memory
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...64-voting.html

Haha, DOH! Well I look like an ass, sorry. I was probably still bitter about the constant post-processing remarks at the time, haha.

[John Thawley]

Ok... just came in from a session... thought I'd put the whole subject to rest.

[henk4]

Ok... just came in from a session... thought I'd put the whole subject to rest.

your qualities as a photographer were never put into doubt
personally I like this pic better than the one for the competition, but taste is always a personal matter.

[henk4]

True, that is a possibility, but not always a reliable one.

here is wehre money starts to play a role. A 1D gives you eight frames per second, chances, that one of the shots is the right one increase manyfold...

[Kitdy]

your qualities as a photographer were never put into doubt
personally I like this pic better than the one for the competition, but taste is always a personal matter.

I agree - this shot is absolutely incredible. I think I prefer it because the car is on a bit of an angle and takes up more of the frame.

As for John's qualities as a photographer, I think it is clear he is talented!

[Wouter Melissen]

Ok... just came in from a session... thought I'd put the whole subject to rest.

Excellent. That's got some proper motion in it.

[dydzi]

this place needs some balance

dydzi
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[Sauc3]

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[Manik]

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Very cool, you did a great job of pulling the car away from the distracting city background. Perhaps it's the puddle which keeps your attention on the car, was there any blurring done to the background?