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    Is BMW "THE" premium small sedan.

    BMW has been the benchmark in this segment ever since the 3-Series grew out of the wonderful 1800 and 2002 models of the 60s and 70s. While the US manufacturers can’t seem to make a dime on small cars, why?! i have no idea, they don’t make anything that can justify the price. The Germans, on the other hand, know this market intimately.
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    Three series aren't small cars.
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    maybe he means 1 series...

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    He meant the older 3 series and now the 1 series, also 2002 and the such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuattroMan View Post
    BMW has been the benchmark in this segment ever since the 3-Series grew out of the wonderful 1800 and 2002 models of the 60s and 70s. While the US manufacturers can’t seem to make a dime on small cars, why?! i have no idea, they don’t make anything that can justify the price. The Germans, on the other hand, know this market intimately.
    Well I guess it's in their blood. BMW has always been the benchmark when it comes to sports saloons and despite dubious styling they still are. Even their german rivlas, no matter how hard they try, aren't match for BMW in their own terrain.
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    Three series aren't small cars.
    It is the smallest BMW saloon and one of the smallest (if not the smallest) in its segment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Well I guess it's in their blood. BMW has always been the benchmark when it comes to sports saloons and despite dubious styling they still are.
    when the 1500 was introduced the benchmark was called Giulietta and later Giulia....
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    when the 1500 was introduced the benchmark was called Giulietta and later Giulia....
    Since then though...

    And it pains me to say it, but look where Alfa is now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    It is the smallest BMW saloon and one of the smallest (if not the smallest) in its segment.
    Yeah, I can sit in the back of an Audi A4 fine, but the 3 series is a little cramped for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Since then though...

    And it pains me to say it, but look where Alfa is now...
    I was raking note of the use of the word "always" in your earlier post. (and I think I would prefer an 8C over an X6.....)
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    I'd say they got the formula just right (except for the styling). RWD, more-or-less 50/50 weight distribution and sweet in-line 6 cylinders seems to be a winning combination.

    Now, if they can just make them a bit lighter and better looking, they'll be assured of leading the market for quite a while still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    I was raking note of the use of the word "always" in your earlier post. (and I think I would prefer an 8C over an X6.....)
    Always since they began making them that is...

    And I don't think I need to say anything about the 8C and X6, do I?
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    comparing the 8C to an X6 is not exactly a fair play i would say. 159 over a 3 series? I'd take the Brera over an M6 thou

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolstadt View Post
    comparing the 8C to an X6 is not exactly a fair play i would say.
    the question was where Alfa is now, and I wanted to add some perspective to where BMW is now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    the question was where Alfa is now, and I wanted to add some perspective to where BMW is now...
    Let's not compare a Brera V6 to a Z4 3.0si.

    Let's not even compare a Brera V6 to the old GTV V6.

    Don't get me wrong I love Alfas, but their current cars are far from their best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Let's not compare a Brera V6 to a Z4 3.0si.

    Let's not even compare a Brera V6 to the old GTV V6.

    Don't get me wrong I love Alfas, but their current cars are far from their best.
    how would you compare 2002Tii to a curent three series (330CI or something?)
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