battle between zonda f, enzo, carrera GT, koenigsegg and MC12 at the nurburgring...

[Bavarian_Power]

1.5 million GBP

[Ferrer]

ahahaha.

I love you.

I reckon I laughed too.

and the Zonda is too Teutonic for me.

Too teutonic?

[LeonOfTheDead]

Koenigsegg is far better in every way compared to all these other inferior cars. It has a wing now, so the stig shouldnt have problems keeping it on the track. These other pathetic excuses for "supercars" should take some lessons from Koenigsegg.

the wing was available eve before of that crash.

agreed.

Who can touch its top speed?
Looks are not importaint, everyone likes diff things. Although the car is sexy.
Koenigsegg doesnt need more than a v-8 to make over 1000 hp.
It weighs 2800lbs roughly.

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you can have 1500 hp from a 1,5 liter V6 engine, hire an old Honda engined Formula car.

or about 1000 hp from with any of those Group C cars, regardless of the cylinder's disposition.

or you can have thousands and thousands of hp from a I6 diesel engine, hire a boat.

do you know something about engines?

That's what she said.

but in all seriousness, I'd take the Enzo. The Porsche would overwhelm me, the Koenigsegg needs a Top Gear wing (), the MC12 is merely a rebadge with no rear-windows, and the Zonda is too Teutonic for me. No, I like me my traction controls and fancy gadgets.

as said above, the Top Gear Wing was nothing new.

[kingofthering]

Who can touch its top speed?

The Bugatti Veyron and the SSC Aero would like to have a word with you about that...

I reckon I laughed too.

Too teutonic?

It's got a German engine. I mean, that's like terrible, isn't it? If I remember correctly, the last time the Italians and the Germans worked together, that didn't end so well.

[Ferrer]

It's got a German engine. I mean, that's like terrible, isn't it? If I remember correctly, the last time the Italians and the Germans worked together, that didn't end so well.

This time though, it works.

[wwgkd]

It's got a German engine. I mean, that's like terrible, isn't it? If I remember correctly, the last time the Italians and the Germans worked together, that didn't end so well.

Lolz dude. Lolz.

[Bleeding Heart]

It's got a German engine. I mean, that's like terrible, isn't it? If I remember correctly, the last time the Italians and the Germans worked together, that didn't end so well.

Well... except for reliability, the Zonda excels in performance...

Same goes for the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 and Gallardo LP560... They got german engineering and it works for them...

[Ferrer]

Well... except for reliability, the Zonda excels in performance...

Same goes for the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 and Gallardo LP560... They got german engineering and it works for them...

The Murcielago doesn't. Well at least the big chunk of metal behind the seats is purely italian. And about 40 years old.

[Niko_Fx]

Koenigsegg doesnt need more than a v-8 to make over 1000 hp.

Is it a naturally aspirated V8?

[Kitdy]

I doubt the current V12 shares much with the original one in the 350 GT.

[Ferrer]

I doubt the current V12 shares much with the original one in the 350 GT.

It can trace its roots back to the original 3.5 litre engine though.

Just like the current 6 and 3/4 litre Bentley engine is from the 50's.

[Bleeding Heart]

The Murcielago doesn't. Well at least the big chunk of metal behind the seats is purely italian. And about 40 years old.

Yeah, the engine is pretty much italian... But the rest of it (including the dimwitted AWD system) is german....

[Ferrer]

Yeah, the engine is pretty much italian... But the rest of it (including the dimwitted AWD system) is german....

Actually that's not the case since I believe it's based off the Diablo VT's four wheel drive system, a car which was introduced long before Audi bought Lamborghini.

The Murcielago is quite italian.

[Kitdy]

It can trace its roots back to the original 3.5 litre engine though.

Just like the current 6 and 3/4 litre Bentley engine is from the 50's.

Yeah I guess it was a bunch of evolutions that resulted in today's engine - I read Wiki after you said that. I am not an engineer, but engine evolution perturbs me to an extent as evolution as opposed to clean sheet design would in my mind be less than ideal as certain older less advanced design elements n may linger on longer than they should and if you are boring and stroking the engine and things like that this may upset the original design and make things less reliable or some such things.

Looking at the 6.75 is pretty key - in the 1981 Silver Spur it is 6750 cc with a bore or 104 mm and stroke of 99.1 mm with a compression ratio of 8:1. In the 2008 Arnage Final Series it is 6761 cc with a bore of 104.2 mm and stroke of 99.1 mm and a compression ratio of 7.8:1. It's still OHV - the block has gotta basically be the same as it was when the 6.2 was increased in size to 6.75 in 1968.

Now that is ghetto.

EDIT: What about the Murcielago did Audi have influence over? How German is it exactly? Ditto Gallardo.

[Bleeding Heart]

Actually that's not the case since I believe it's based off the Diablo VT's four wheel drive system, a car which was introduced long before Audi bought Lamborghini.

The Murcielago is quite italian.

Quite Italian still but not as much as that of the Diablo and Countach...

It is just a little too civilized nowadays...

Lamborghinis before like the countach and diablo were not very convenient to drive as an everyday car...

Now, if you have the money for the fuel. You can drive a Lamborghini murcielago everyday as a roadcar... It has Sat Nav, Airconditioning that actually works, etc...

As Jeremy Clarkson said, Audi is taking away Lamborghini's soul...