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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Supercars are made with exotic lightweight materials. Affordable sportscars aren't.
    well yes, that's true... but most affordable sportscars have dimensions of small family cars...

    And yet... the sportscars are still a lot heavier...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding Heart View Post
    well yes, that's true... but most affordable sportscars have dimensions of small family cars...

    And yet... the sportscars are still a lot heavier...
    family cars are heavy too.

    supercars aren't so big. you should know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleeding Heart View Post
    You wouldn't really expect that those cars are heavy because they are comparatively small to supercars...
    how do you mean? usually they're larger compared to supercars - taller (but not wider i guess), bigger cabin, etc etc
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Supercars are made with exotic lightweight materials. Affordable sportscars aren't.
    true. but then the old silvia series all clocked in at 1100-1200kg, as recent as 2002, same with the integra's if they count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    true. but then the old silvia series all clocked in at 1100-1200kg, as recent as 2002, same with the integra's if they count.
    As has been discussed recently it's gizmos, safety equipment, growing dimensions with every generation,...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    As has been discussed recently it's gizmos, safety equipment, growing dimensions with every generation,...
    I'm taller and skinnier than my old bro though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    As has been discussed recently it's gizmos, safety equipment, growing dimensions with every generation,...
    well, the thing with the 350Z is that it's not that much more complex, it's still pretty basic like an S15. i guess it's just conceptually bigger to start with, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows View Post
    You'll get fatter with time.
    I'm 15 cm taller, and +30 kg lighter

    powa/weight ratio ftw
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    isn't that more like, height/weight ratio?
    i.e. something i don't have
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    well, the thing with the 350Z is that it's not that much more complex, it's still pretty basic like an S15. i guess it's just conceptually bigger to start with, but still.
    Well. It's a V6 for a start. And it was designed with current regulations in mind. And comfort requirements since it's a more upmarket car. The older Silvia didn't have such constraints, or at least not the Z's extent.
    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    isn't that more like, height/weight ratio?
    i.e. something i don't have
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Well. It's a V6 for a start. And it was designed with current regulations in mind. And comfort requirements since it's a more upmarket car. The older Silvia didn't have such constraints, or at least not the Z's extent.
    i don't want to bring stereotypes into it, but one was designed in japan and the other in the US..
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    i don't want to bring stereotypes into it, but one was designed in japan and the other in the US..
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    The problem with the 350Z's weight is the SUV/crossover/large sedan chassis they started with.

    But hey, you want fast, you want it tech-laden, and you want it cheap, but there's no free lunch. If you don't want $300,000 carbon-fiber GT-Rs, you'll need to suck it up and accept it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingofthering View Post
    But hey, you want fast
    yes. will accept quick or merely 'sporty'.
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    you want it tech-laden
    no
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    you want it cheap
    yes
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    but there's no free lunch.
    there is, i call it buying a second hand S15.
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    isn't the 350z chassis much stiffer then the s15? could that be where weight goes?
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