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    you're right... simple, cheap, moderately powered RWD sportscar..it's hard to think of any. i wonder if japan still makes some funky kei cars?
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    MG TF? not available here. the solstice/sky, heavier but still sorta competitive. the MR-S is still around, right? i think the Z4 and SLK are way out of the price point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmcpokey View Post
    MG TF? not available here. the solstice/sky, heavier but still sorta competitive. the MR-S is still around, right? i think the Z4 and SLK are way out of the price point.
    the MG TF isn't sold anymore for obvious reasons haha
    the MR-S they stopped making, i don't know if you can still find them new.
    never seen a solstice/sky. are they any good?

    edit: how much is that little smart roadster? do they still make them?
    edit2: nvm no manual option
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    never seen a solstice/sky. are they any good?
    They're fairly descent cars. Lack a little in power and overall handling but not bad for the price tag. Never really sold well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    edit: how much is that little smart roadster? do they still make them?
    Didn't sell, out of production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefella View Post
    They're fairly descent cars. Lack a little in power and overall handling but not bad for the price tag. Never really sold well.
    should have tried selling it overseas maybe, like the crossfire (bleugh).
    seems like a reasonable alternative.
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    Didn't sell, out of production.
    that's a shame. if that car had a manual and lower price it would have been a good candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefella View Post
    They're fairly descent cars. Lack a little in power and overall handling but not bad for the price tag. Never really sold well.
    handled with the V8 conversion, which at least for a while was a factory option, albeit with a large price tag attached to it
    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    should have tried selling it overseas maybe, like the crossfire (bleugh).
    seems like a reasonable alternative.
    they are sold in Europe at Opel GTs, don't think as vauxhalls though.

    and the TF is back in production again, limited right now, but will be back to full production next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    never seen a solstice/sky. are they any good?
    I linked to one on the tuner thread we were on yesterday.
    EDIT: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum...o-s2000-5.html

    @ pokey: In the current economic clusterfu*ck, the Chinese might dump MG. Don't think it's been very profitable.
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    @ Rocke: th Solstice didn't sell well because they didn't make enough of them initially, and who wants to be on a waiting list for a pontiac? After that peeps enthusiasm faded and they bought miatas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmcpokey View Post
    handled with the V8 conversion, which at least for a while was a factory option, albeit with a large price tag attached to it.
    that sounds awesome! like a modern day cobra.
    Quote Originally Posted by cmcpokey View Post
    they are sold in Europe at Opel GTs, don't think as vauxhalls though.
    ah ok, i seem to remember not in RHD though thus no vauxhall? which was apparently ironic as it was a brit design?
    Quote Originally Posted by cmcpokey View Post
    and the TF is back in production again, limited right now, but will be back to full production next year.
    any changes or a straight copy? it wasn't too good.
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    yeah... i guess it was taken from the vauxhall lightening concept or something. but no rhd. irony is never passed upon by GM.
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    IIRC the pontiac solstice was something crazy like 2700lbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteballz View Post
    IIRC the pontiac solstice was something crazy like 2700lbs?
    Ya, I remeber seeing somewhere that a Solstice with an LSx would weigh the same or more than a Vette.
    Could be BS, I never checked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yungtris77 View Post
    in another thread, i learned that the 350Z was quite heavy and after doing some research, i found that to be true. learned that the infinities were also heavy and the new GTR weighs a tonne. the old skylines were not exactly feather weights either.
    so i ask the que, why do they persist with these heavy cars when everyone else tries to lessen the load? am i missing something? is it for stability? in addition, do u prefer a heavy stable car or a light flighty one. bear in mind that we are speaking about performance cars please. please share your knowledge. thanks.
    *Haven't read the thread comments*

    Comparable performance:

    350Z= 3339lbs
    STI = 3300lbs
    Mustag GT = 3483lbs
    Challenger = 4140lbs ..... lol
    Camaro = 3869lbs
    RX8 = 2980lbs
    S2000 = 2855lbs
    Corvette = 3180lbs
    EVO X = 3395lbs

    So the 350Z is heavy compared to.... an S2000 if anything? an RX7? That's about it.

    God forbid I bring in Supras and 3000GTs into the discussion.

    Yeah the GTR is a pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niko_Fx View Post
    So the 350Z is heavy compared to.... an S2000 if anything? an RX7? That's about it.
    The 350Z is as heavy as a BMW 335i Coupe. The Porsche Cayman is about 200kg lighter. And the Z4 Coupe weights about 210kg less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by f6fhellcat13 View Post
    Ya, I remeber seeing somewhere that a Solstice with an LSx would weigh the same or more than a Vette.
    Could be BS, I never checked.
    They weighed (a little) less, but ended up costing about the same as a Vette, so most people would have preferred the Vette. Besides, the facory started offering the Solstice GXP making it semiredundant but then GM decided to stop making the Solstice soon after. Now there are a ton of the GXP models being raced and doing pretty well.

    There was a Solstice (non gxp) for sale here in moscow that I test drove, and I actually liked it. Well, I didn't really like the looks, but it's base price was several grand less than a miata and even though it weighed more than I would have preferred it was a really fun car.
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