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    actually the alfa brera comes in under the 350Z now that i think of it, it's just slower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    the base model cayman is poop. to be fair being a courtesy car the one i had was chicktronic.
    You are the only one that thinks this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    actually the alfa brera comes in under the 350Z now that i think of it, it's just slower.
    Does it? I thought it weighted a million tonnes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitdy View Post
    You are the only one that thinks this.
    i would take an MX-5 over the base model cayman. although i have no clue if it's better than it's rivals. the only Z4 i've ridden in seemed much better, didn't get to drive that though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Does it? I thought it weighted a million tonnes.
    weighs 1560 or something, so it comes in under your 350Z weight. not really a sportscar though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch-monkey View Post
    actually the alfa brera comes in under the 350Z now that i think of it, it's just slower.
    I guess the Brera is more about the styling than anything else (fair enough until it is such a beautiful car).
    and probably they messed up a little drawing something to fight against 350Z and the likes, while marketing it as a 3-Series/CLK/A5 or whatever you want. you know the difference. it's just the expensive and comfy coupè of the line-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    I guess the Brera is more about the styling than anything else (fair enough until it is such a beautiful car).
    and probably the messed up a little drawing something to fight against 350Z and the likes, while marketing it as a 3-Series/CLK/A5 or whatever you want. you know the difference. it's just the expensive and comfy coupè of the line-up.
    It's not really a focused sportcar car though. More like 159 Coupe, which for a sportscar is not a good start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    The numbers I have are 1395kg and 48.500€ for the Z4 3.0si Coupe, 1405kg and 55.720€ for the Cayman and 1605kg and 41.545€ for the 350Z.

    All three are 2 seater sportscars similar in size, performance and price. Definitely competitors in my book.
    Holy crap... 350Zs are expensive over there, over here you'll probably get it out of the dealer after taxes for under 35,000 US dollars. Used, 2008, with less than 20k miles and you'll get it for US $24,000

    Anyway, seems that my numbers (cars.com and ultimatecarpage.com) are different from yours.

    My point remains, there's a bunch of good-performing heavy cars out there. It's never been a secret that the 350Z is heavier than its Japanese competition (S2000 / RX8), but it performs and handles good enough to take care of any criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niko_Fx View Post
    My point remains, there's a bunch of good-performing heavy cars out there. It's never been a secret that the 350Z is heavier than its Japanese competition (S2000 / RX8), but it performs and handles good enough to take care of any criticism.
    And anyway they are solving it for the next gen.
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    They need this in the next gen z car
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    It's not really a focused sportcar car though. More like 159 Coupe, which for a sportscar is not a good start.
    that was my point, it's not a sport car, just the coupe of the lineup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged View Post
    They need this in the next gen z car
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged View Post
    They need this in the next gen z car
    Limited to a mere 1500hp.
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