will europe and east asia be devasted if...

[Kitdy]

Left leaning? I think it was Colbert that put it best - reality is left leaning.

Maybe there was some bias I am not sure but it seems to me that both left and right see bias in newscasts.

I find it funny when I hear some conservatives call other elected Americans Marxists and things or members of the far left - there is no one really in the far left in mainstream American politics but I'd say Ron Paul may well be. The political compass seems to think so but maybe this is left-wing propaganda to make him seem extremist/radical.

View the 2008 US Election

Here's Canada

The Conservative Party of Canada being in between Republican and Democrat but probably closer to the Republicans, and our Liberals being to the left part of the Democrats.

[Rockefella]

I wasn't too satisfied with just agree/disagree and strongly agree/disagree. There were some issues that I was neutral on and others where I felt rather strongly about but not to the point where I 'strongly agree'. Should have been a 1-10 scale or something.



Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.69

[Kitdy]

I am not super-familiar with the governance of China but I think it is sorta a dictatorship/oligarchy - the Party wields great power and shapes the way the nation is going and with all this market growth due to the shift to a freer-market economy in the past 10-20-30 years you are getting a "capitalist dictatorship" to a degree, yes I agree.

China was a power when it was more socialistic but the shift to capitalism is making them very powerful and yielding them greater influence worldwide.

[roosterjuicer]

there is no one really in the far left in mainstream American politics but I'd say Ron Paul may well be.

You must have your directions all messed up buddy. Ron Paul is super far to the right, he's too conservative for the republicans.

[Kitdy]

You must have your directions all messed up buddy. Ron Paul is super far to the right, he's too conservative for the republicans.

Haha no I was writing it and went back to revise something - he is about as far right as they go and maybe you could call him a radical right winger - I would not call Obama a radical left winger. Ron Paul I was gonna say may well be on the far right however.

At that point he's not conservative - being very far right doens't make you conservative really - conservative ideology is different. I would consider him neo-liberal. A more apt description as opposed to him being more conservative would him being more free market oriented as I don't think that your average conservative now or even 50 years ago was that far right fiscally.

What you have however in a non-tow axis system is right and left meaning two things at once - both fiscal and social. You hear of some politicians being right economically and left fiscally which is more of a hindrance to think of than a two axis system like the political compass for example.

We've done the political compass things before however here and here.

[f6fhellcat13]

You must have your directions all messed up buddy. Ron Paul is super far to the right, he's too conservative for the republicans.

Classical libertarians have some left leaning thoughts.
THe term "libertarian" has been bastaardized and muddled so many times that it could mean almost anythig

We've done the political compass things before however here and here.

good thing I didn't start a new thread.

[Kitdy]

Classical libertarians have some left leaning thoughts.
THe term "libertarian" has been bastaardized and muddled so many times that it could mean almost anythig

Yeah the hardest core libertarians are very for what would be called "left" social policy - you know, the state has no business in the bedrooms of it's populace as Pierre Trudeau once said.

[f6fhellcat13]

Does anybody know of any more in-depth/and accurate political spectrum measurers?
It's quite fun to see whether or not the internet knows me better than I do

[Kitdy]

One thing is that you may think you are something but may not actually be it.

Then again, how accurate the political compass is I don't know as it sets the centre where a group of people see fit (I hope they are political scientists that are trying to be objective).

[Zytek_Fan]

What I'd like to see is who's been profiting or picking up businesses en masse since the start of the financial crisis.

[Ferrer]

Wrong. See Marx, Karl and Engels, Freiderich, The Communist Manifesto.

I can't recall if it calls directly for perfectly even wealth distribution however - it's been a while since I read it.

Nobody said wealth had to be evenly distributed...

...for the statistics that is.

[blingbling]

Nobody said wealth had to be evenly distributed.

facts are nothing if logic isn't applied for cohesion, ferrer

Been there, tried that, epic fail.

your congress also seems to agree that capitalism is an epic fail as well, very very epic

[Zytek_Fan]

facts are nothing if logic isn't applied for cohesion, ferreryour congress also seems to agree that capitalism is an epic fail as well, very very epic

Capitalism doesn't work as well as it used to.

[blingbling]

only when the non jewish newbies **** it up in wall st.

[Matra et Alpine]

only when the non jewish newbies **** it up in wall st.

yeah no point letting facts get in the way of good ole racism is there

"Mr Madoff, 70, was a Wall Street legend before his arrest on Thursday, when two FBI agents arrived at his $5 million (£3.3 million) apartment on New York's Upper East Side.
Born to a New York Jewish family in 1938,"