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    Ford RS200 IMSA GTO

    Ford RS200 IMSA GTO


    One RS200 found its way in circuit racing, originated as a roadcar, it was converted to IMSA GTO specification powered by a 750+ BHP 2.0 litre turbo BDTE Cosworth Evolution engine. Competing against the numerous factory backed teams such as Mazda, Mercury and Nissan, with their newly built spaceframe specials, despite being a privateer, the car never achieved any real success to be a serious contender and was sold off later. The car is now used to compete in the Unlimited category at the Pikes Peak hillclimb.

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    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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    any info on the year during which it was converted or raced?
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    750 bhp from 2 litres? I'd like to see the bill for engine internals, and it's great shame it wasn't successful, just underdeveloped by Ford, I'd suppose.
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    Not really "underdeveloped", but more "late" developed.
    One of the later GroupB rally car developments.
    Was getting things sorted just in time for GroupB to be banned
    Went on to have a VERY successful rallycross career.
    Nothing particularly exotic on the internals.
    But expensive to maintain. The "evo" engine upgrade - as this has - threw a cam belt on brothers RS and was £10K to rebuild the head/valves and a piston
    Not an ideal track racer as the car was designed for rallying
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    bit more on the car at Seeking Sponsorship and driver for Ford RS200 GTO racecar for Pikes Peak Race!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    any info on the year during which it was converted or raced?
    IIRC 1986 ('87 perhaps?)
    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Not really "underdeveloped", but more "late" developed.
    One of the later GroupB rally car developments.
    Was getting things sorted just in time for GroupB to be banned
    Went on to have a VERY successful rallycross career.
    Nothing particularly exotic on the internals.
    But expensive to maintain. The "evo" engine upgrade - as this has - threw a cam belt on brothers RS and was £10K to rebuild the head/valves and a piston
    Not an ideal track racer as the car was designed for rallying
    Bodywork was manufactured by Reliant -- of Reliant Robin fame
    bit more on the car at Seeking Sponsorship and driver for Ford RS200 GTO racecar for Pikes Peak Race!
    But only because failed with their first Group B car, the RS1700T.
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    Very interesting car, I had no idea only on one was ever converted for road racing. Though on the other hand, SWBs don't always equal great road race cars.

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    why are all of the IMSA GTO cars so ugly?
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    It started in the early seventies when styling was on the decline and stopped in the mid nineties right as cars were starting to look good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    But only because failed with their first Group B car, the RS1700T.
    Well to be fair, every manufacturer was developing a GroupB car based on the body of a car in their range. The clear success of the Audi Quattro 4WD and the short wheelbase spaceframe 205 led everyone to follow that path for GroupB. All the RS1700T engines were used in the RS200
    not fair to say they "failed" with their first, they were beaten to the punch on radical homologation special spaceframe rally cars !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Well to be fair, every manufacturer was developing a GroupB car based on the body of a car in their range. The clear success of the Audi Quattro 4WD and the short wheelbase spaceframe 205 led everyone to follow that path for GroupB. All the RS1700T engines were used in the RS200
    not fair to say they "failed" with their first, they were beaten to the punch on radical homologation special spaceframe rally cars !
    Well then the car wasn't rubbish, just their planification.

    Altough, to be honest the Stratos had already shown the way to go in the 70's. Arguably the 037, IIRC the first ever car homologated in Group B, was a modernised 80's Stratos. Of couse Audi had shown earlier that four wheel drive would eventually become necessary, so what Peugeot basically did was combine what had made the Quattro successful and what brought Lancia the championships. And voilą, the 205 T16 appeared.

    The RS1700T was far too convenional to succeed amongst those homoloagtion specials. And the RS200, despite showing promise, was far, far too late. Even Lancia which realised their mistake with 037 were (slightly) quicker to react and with better results too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by f6fhellcat13 View Post
    It started in the early seventies when styling was on the decline and stopped in the mid nineties right as cars were starting to look good again.
    You are 100% correct and that era truly was the dark age of cars.

    Jalopnik calls it part of that time the Malaise Era which I think is a good term in reference to the cars produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitdy View Post
    You are 100% correct and that era truly was the dark age of cars.

    Jalopnik calls it part of that time the Malaise Era which I think is a good term in reference to the cars produced.
    The 80's were a great decade with some truly great cars and you could still buy some of the all time greats.

    It also was before globalisation and standardisation took over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Altough, to be honest the Stratos had already shown the way to go in the 70's
    Not really, monocoque chassis - ok with tubular front and rear outriggers.
    Rear engine, RWD.
    About all it had for it was the short wheelbase, which was it's downfall.
    A great looking car and one of THE best to hear coming through a forest, but off the pace
    Arguably the 037, IIRC the first ever car homologated in Group B, was a modernised 80's Stratos.
    Not really, didn't share anything with the concept.
    ( well OK, the idea of a monocoque core and spacefreme front/rear, but the 037 took it much further than the Stratos did and used small supercharged engine.
    Of couse Audi had shown earlier that four wheel drive would eventually become necessary, so what Peugeot basically did was combine what had made the Quattro successful and what brought Lancia the championships. And voilą, the 205 T16 appeared.
    Spot on.
    So the 205 was the first of what we came to know as the GroupB layout and style of car. Even Audi were late in realising this and getting the spaceframe , short wheelbase S1 evo into competition.

    The RS1700T was far too convenional to succeed amongst those homoloagtion specials. And the RS200, despite showing promise, was far, far too late. Even Lancia which realised their mistake with 037 were (slightly) quicker to react and with better results too.[/quote]

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