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    pure track star

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    I think you've already answered yourself.

    (And I doubt the GT4 car will be much different from the Trofeo)
    well, It should, better for them.
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    Damn, I forgot to say: there is a small chance the Scuderia version of the 599 will bring back the "GTO" moniker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    Damn, I forgot to say: there is a small chance the Scuderia version of the 599 will bring back the "GTO" moniker.
    Or maybe Vanderstink has already killed that notion.

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    I'm here to destroy my reputation (do I have one?!):

    yes, there is a racing version of the 599 under development.
    don't know its stage, don't know if it's progressing, don't know which category, don't know anything, but it exists.
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    You do have a reputation but we don't know its stage, don't know if it's progressing, don't know which category, don't know anything, but it exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino Scuderia View Post
    You do have a reputation but we don't know its stage, don't know if it's progressing, don't know which category, don't know anything, but it exists.
    I'll bring some more info as soon as I will get them
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    I'll bring some more info as soon as I will get them
    About the car or your reputation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    About the car or your reputation?
    the reputation of course, I need a fourth level security password to have access to the files about it
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    There is a rumor of a Ferrari hybrid race car...or that a hybrid power plant has been tested in the 599xx.

    Heard anything on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino Scuderia View Post
    There is a rumor of a Ferrari hybrid race car...or that a hybrid power plant has been tested in the 599xx.

    Heard anything on that?
    nope, and I actually doubt it.
    simply because Magneti Marelli is still developing its hybrid system so it wouldn't make any sense.
    at the very best they just put it on a random 599 they had laying around (more than what you would expect) and see what happens.to my knowledge, they didn't, but I will check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    the reputation of course, I need a fourth level security password to have access to the files about it
    How do you get access to all this stuff? Your buddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino Scuderia View Post
    There is a rumor of a Ferrari hybrid race car...or that a hybrid power plant has been tested in the 599xx.

    Heard anything on that?
    sorry for the late answer
    So, it's true they "tested" something in a 599 mule. I think it was a Kers system or something similar but still very basic. It wasn't something specifically designed or developed before, just a "let's see if it fits" experiment.
    Don't expect the upcoming F142 to adopt a kers system.

    Errata corrige: the 599XX codename is actually 141XX


    Quote Originally Posted by Kitdy View Post
    How do you get access to all this stuff? Your buddy?
    yep, aka deepthroat .
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    Forgive me for asking this, but is Kers like BMW's Efficient Dynamics, or is it different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Forgive me for asking this, but is Kers like BMW's Efficient Dynamics, or is it different?
    correct me if I'm wrong.

    BMW's system just collect energy to power electrical auxiliary systems, such A/C, sat nav and the likes.
    Ferrari's system should be, afaik and considering what they declared, a sort of kers, or even something like the system used in a Prius: you collect energy to power the car itself, not the auxiliaries.

    you have a better mileage/emissions in both cases, but I would say the later is even better for this reason:

    with the Efficient Dynamics, you use the energy you managed to recover to power auxiliary systems, but you can only guess how much power they are going to require. therefore the engine is still supposed to power them, but in a variable ratio, which goes from zero, in case the power recovered is enough, to a certain quantity, which could even be the maximal one if you don't have recovered energy anymore.

    adopting the same power you recovered to power directly the car would lead the engine to power the auxiliaries in every moment, but in a more constant way, knowing which is both the minimal power those system can require and the maximal too. In this way you can design the parts in a better and more precise way, and avoid variations of loads, which aren't generally a good thing in first place.
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