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    Quote Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows View Post
    So can someone do the calculations for Australia? my mind hurts when I try to do them.

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    Lets go a Traditional Australian Car....Ford Focus XR5 Turbo.

    Total Cost Au: $37,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows View Post
    Lets go a Traditional Australian Car....Ford Focus XR5 Turbo.

    Total Cost Au: $37,000
    Alright. Figures for Australia: 27.993,56 (1,39).

    The Focus costs 37 grand, which is 51.430 intl $. So it takes an average Australian 1,84 years to be able to afford a go fast Ford.

    I'm afraid it's not looking good...
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    I think the calculation should be done this way:
    state an international amount of money, and see what you can buy in each area.
    Then compare the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    I think the calculation should be done this way:
    state an international amount of money, and see what you can buy in each area.
    Then compare the car.
    That would be another way of doing it. Either that or compare cars that you could buy in all countries.
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    To be fair though, thats about an average price for a decent performance car in Australia, so we'll be happy to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    That would be another way of doing it. Either that or compare cars that you could buy in all countries.
    Our Focus ST mk1 should do the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    Our Focus ST mk1 should do the job.
    It would be easier to choose a car that's currently on sale, if not finding the prices might be tricky. The BMW 335i for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Would be easier to choose a car that's currently, if not finding the prices might be tricky. The BMW 335i for instance.
    The "premium" factor could affect the actual price in different ways in each country though. Agree that older cars could be tricky to track.

    Opel Astra? is it sold in Oz?
    Also the Opel GT or Saturn SKy/Pontiac Solstice, whatever has the same motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    The "premium" factor could affect the actual price in different ways in each country though. Agree that older cars could be tricky to track.

    Opel Astra? is it sold in Oz?
    Also the Opel GT or Saturn SKy/Pontiac Solstice, whatever has the same motor.
    No Solstice/Sky/GT for RHD countries so that's Ozland out. The Astra might just do the trick though. I'm going to try and make the numbers.
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    I've picked the base trim level 5 door Astra with the 1.8 litre engine. The prices are as follows:

    Spain: 18.510,00€
    Italy: 19.650,00€
    Australia: $22.290,00
    US: $16.495,00
    Canada: $18.390,00

    Let's remind the macroeconomic figures for each country:

    Spain: 20.976,63 intl. $ (0,84)
    Italy: 23.175,02 intl $ (0,91)
    Australia: 27.993,56 intl $ (1,39)
    US: 36.098,15 intl. $ (1,00)
    Canada: 28.397,69 intl. $ (1,26)

    Now the price in intl. $ for each country (Tha'ts multiplying the price by the PPP).

    Spain: 15.548,40 intl. $
    Italy: 17.881,50 intl $
    Australia: 30.983,10 intl $
    US: 16.495,00 intl $
    Canada: 23.171,40 intl $

    And now the time it would take to buy the Astra, on average, in each country given the GDP per capita.

    Spain: 0,74 years
    Italy: 0,77 years
    Australia: 1,11 years
    US: 0,46 years
    Canada: 0,82 years

    As you can see thing have changed a bit, but not that much. The US gets the best deal by far, and Australia is last. Then Spain and Italy are very close together, but quite far from the US. And Canada is still fourth. With the worse driving roads ever. And bad weather.
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    Excellent job Albert.
    Now we could even take into count other factors, such as, how much money Joe Average spends every moths to pay bills, health care, taxes, and other things which are "mandatory" but very different in each country.
    At the end of such a calculation, it should came out who can spend more on his car and who has the larger part of his check gone into other costs.

    Like saying, I could even get 3.000 € a month as a blue collar, but if then I have to pay more for water, electricity, food and other necessary goods, perhaps at the end of the day a blue collar living on Pluto and receiving 1.000 € a month has more money to spend the way he prefers every month after he payed all the bills&co.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    And Canada is still fourth. With the worse driving roads ever. And bad weather.
    I despise you.

    I'd thought that GDP per capita is not as accurate as average wage so I think these calculations are off potentially. If we had the average wage of each country then did something with PPP we'd get much better results no?

    And yes, our roads are pretty shitty but not as bad as Michigan's.

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    i like what Ferrer said. BUT, im mixed when it comes to cars. tuners, excotics and muscles. i like 'em. Ferrer has a point though. he wants Mustangs, i want Alfa's, SEAT's, Renualt's and so on and so forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonOfTheDead View Post
    Excellent job Albert.
    Now we could even take into count other factors, such as, how much money Joe Average spends every moths to pay bills, health care, taxes, and other things which are "mandatory" but very different in each country.
    At the end of such a calculation, it should came out who can spend more on his car and who has the larger part of his check gone into other costs.

    Like saying, I could even get 3.000 € a month as a blue collar, but if then I have to pay more for water, electricity, food and other necessary goods, perhaps at the end of the day a blue collar living on Pluto and receiving 1.000 € a month has more money to spend the way he prefers every month after he payed all the bills&co.
    This would make greater difference I think than comparing what has already been done with average wage. I'd love to see Denmark vs. the US in that aspect. Epic taxes
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