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[Ferrer]

Definitely. I'd say the current M3s are luxurious and comfortable, and according to just about everyone who's driven one (unfortunately not me) they're a lot of fun to drive (despite those who complain about theincrease in size.) There's a lot of other cars that fit the bill, too, depending on your standards of comfort and how pure you want your car to be.

There are many examples. Many BMWs fit the bill as well as Jags. Grand Tourers, sports saloons and hot hatches are all part of it. They are my favourite cars.

[G35COUPE]

Definitely. I'd say the current M3s are luxurious and comfortable, and according to just about everyone who's driven one (unfortunately not me) they're a lot of fun to drive (despite those who complain about theincrease in size.) There's a lot of other cars that fit the bill, too, depending on your standards of comfort and how pure you want your car to be.

The M3s are great looking and I have never heard a rattle from any M3---I love them. I was taken aback by the truck-like rattle of such a new M5. The angry sound from the M5 I saw was even more angry than the sound of another E55 AMG I came across. For both cars, even at low speeds, when you hear their low end growls, you get the feeling that there is plenty and tons of power under the hood.

[LTSmash]

The M3s are great looking and I hav enver heard a rattle from any M3. I was taken aback by the truck-like rattle of such a new M5.

V10 maybe?

[G35COUPE]

V10 maybe?

Yep! Its a 500 HP, 40 valve, V-10 with 7 speed manual transmission. That would explain the rattles.

[whiteballz]

I meant race, not track. On that basis only Fred and charged AFAIK.

My point is, lap times are for racers. For the rest of us mere mortals they are a bit meaningless.

Somehow I missed this post earlier - My father and I are looking at buying a track car - We're extremely interested in track times - just because we're not in a championship doesn't mean we dont care what time our car could run.

[LTSmash]

My father and I are looking at buying a track car - We're extremely interested in track times - just because we're not in a championship doesn't mean we dont care what time our car could run.

The ultimate father/son bonding right there; screw fly fishing. What are your prospects as of now?

[whiteballz]

I started a thread a while back, cant remember the name of it, its like racing experience or something.

Basically we're extremely interested in a subaru wrx, Type R V-limited.

Its a Japanese import, 2door wrx with STI goodies and a few other special bits. It's 1 of 1000 made and is vastly faster than equivalent WRX's and on par with STI's.

Recently we saw they have dropped the price to 7990 AUD. so we're seriously considering it.

[LTSmash]

Is it RWD?

[whiteballz]

No - There was an option for a variable center diff to divide power up to 90% to the rear. but the car we are looking at skipped that option.

AFAIK no RWD subaru's have ever been made from factory.

[LTSmash]

No - There was an option for a variable center diff to divide power up to 90% to the rear. but the car we are looking at skipped that option.

AFAIK no RWD subaru's have ever been made from factory.

I didn't think so too but when you said track car I* had to ask.

A rally effort in the works then? whiteballz Sr. will read the notes?

[whiteballz]

not for a while. the car in consideration is rally/track use only and track is far cheaper than bringing the car up to rally spec.

basically motorkhana, gymkhana and track days will be the way. (and skidpans)

[pimento]

(and skidpans)

Maccas car park?

[whiteballz]

driver training etc.

[clutch-monkey]

god i hate motorkhana
still, i'll give it a try in your car eh

[whiteballz]

hell yeah. the WRX club of NSW wet the skidpan for the motorkhanas. Its all about sideways