Hyundai versus Kia

[thebrochureman]

I totaly agree.

[FastDriver]

Horrible? How can you say that, yes they don't make high end sports cars like Porsche, but it doesn't mean their horrible. Most people don't what high end sports car, they whant eco car instead and Hyundi are good at making them.

Ive never heard of hyundai producing any sort of award winning car, neither the Kia... If you want a car that gives you good gas mileage get a VW passat or a Jetta or a Ford Mondeo or a honda accord. There are just so many more good cars to chose from. Why would you buy a Hyundai or Kia. If it is price, there are plenty more cars that are more reliable. I never see any older hyundai or kias driving around, I figure that is because they have all stopped working?

Are you wanting to get a Hyundai or Kia? I don't understand the nature of this thread. Are you really wanting to know wich is more reliable or is it just to see if anyone likes these cars?

[RacingManiac]

Ive never heard of hyundai producing any sort of award winning car,?

I'll just leave this here:

Hyundai Sonata Named 2011 International Car of the Year - TheCarBlogger: Latest Hyundai News Kia News

Personally I am not a fan, though some of it cultural reason more than anything else. I do know some people who worked in powertrain testing that some of their motor is still really not at industry standard for NVH and power. But for one their car looks better now, so if you see a lot of them on the road you at least won't feel bad looking at them...

[FastDriver]

well they probably won the international car of the year award, because they export to more countries than other cars? I don't know, it is definitely not a top rated manufacturer, there must be some loop holes in there somewhere. Although, I could be wrong. I remember when Hyundai started making cars and they were the biggest pieces of crap ive ever seen. So maybe i have a biased opinion...

[henk4]

well they probably won the international car of the year award, because they export to more countries than other cars? I don't know, it is definitely not a top rated manufacturer, there must be some loop holes in there somewhere. Although, I could be wrong. I remember when Hyundai started making cars and they were the biggest pieces of crap ive ever seen. So maybe i have a biased opinion...

Far Eastern countries are fast learners, the same was said about Japanese cars when they came on the scene, and so is the current case with Chinese cars. I don't think you would would question the quality of Japanese cars these days and Korean cars have come a long way to become their (almost) equal. I'll hope you will still be around here in 10 years time when we will be discussing the next Chinese supercar.

[Matra et Alpine]

FastDriver, you may not know ( being US ) that Kia manufactured the FWD Lotus Elan when Lotus stopped. That was one of the best handling FWD ever and the power unit was an Isuzu. It's silly in today's world to think a nation can't do engienering as well as any other ( if they chose to )

[LeonOfTheDead]

I think I've already posted this information in the past, maybe asnwering to carlgirl?

Both Kia and Hyundai are more than 50 years old, they didn't start making cars in the nineties.

[Ferrer]

Are you wanting to get a Hyundai or Kia?

I want a Genesis Coupé.

[FastDriver]

FastDriver, you may not know ( being US ) that Kia manufactured the FWD Lotus Elan when Lotus stopped. That was one of the best handling FWD ever and the power unit was an Isuzu. It's silly in today's world to think a nation can't do engienering as well as any other ( if they chose to )

actually no, i didn't know that, I just know that the Elan was probably my least favorite Lotus, and I love Lotus! That would explain why it was FWD though. I can believe hyundai and kia are better than they used to be, but I can't say I like any of their car models. We could argue that all day, I tend to be more old school in that manner as i tend to go for cars with more of a reputable history as apposed to newer car makes.

I agree Japanese cars are very reliable. I used to have an old 1988 Subaru Justy 4x4. It was one of the most fun cars to drive and was as reliable as anything ive ever driven.

[clutch-monkey]

i quite like some of hyundai's small car offerings at the moment, has to be better than the shitbox honda jazz.

[Matra et Alpine]

FD, nic eto read you knew of the Elan 100 .... but did you try driving one ?

It STILL stands as the only FWD car that felt like a RWD and was quick.
It needed follow up investment at a time Lotus when were skint

As others posted Hyundai and Kia are long term manufacturers with history Just not in the US with cars

[LeonOfTheDead]

actually no, i didn't know that, I just know that the Elan was probably my least favorite Lotus, and I love Lotus! That would explain why it was FWD though. I can believe hyundai and kia are better than they used to be, but I can't say I like any of their car models. We could argue that all day, I tend to be more old school in that manner as i tend to go for cars with more of a reputable history as apposed to newer car makes.

I agree Japanese cars are very reliable. I used to have an old 1988 Subaru Justy 4x4. It was one of the most fun cars to drive and was as reliable as anything ive ever driven.

Once again, Kia Motors was established in 1944, Hyundai Motor Company in 1967. That's not what I'd call "newer" car makes.

[thebrochureman]

Ive never heard of hyundai producing any sort of award winning car, neither the Kia... If you want a car that gives you good gas mileage get a VW passat or a Jetta or a Ford Mondeo or a honda accord. There are just so many more good cars to chose from. Why would you buy a Hyundai or Kia. If it is price, there are plenty more cars that are more reliable. I never see any older hyundai or kias driving around, I figure that is because they have all stopped working?

Are you wanting to get a Hyundai or Kia? I don't understand the nature of this thread. Are you really wanting to know wich is more reliable or is it just to see if anyone likes these cars?

You realy don't see the point do you?

Did i say in my thread i whanted one? NO

Did i say they are the best eco car? NO

The point i was trying to get across was this, you can't say a car manufacture is bad because they don't make sports cars, and yes Hyundi don't make the best eco car but the i10 and i20 aren’t exactly heavy on gas are they?

I may not be the Cleverest on UCP but at least i don't think car manufactures are bad just because they don't make fast cars.

[Kitdy]

I want a Genesis Coupé.

So do I.

As an aside, I have noticed that this conversation is turning into a gangbang.

I am busting out the popcorn and a cigar.

[Ferrer]

The point i was trying to get across was this, you can't say a car manufacture is bad because they don't make sports cars, and yes Hyundi don't make the best eco car but the i10 and i20 aren’t exactly heavy on gas are they?

Actually the base petrol i30 is suprisingly thirsty in demanding use.