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    2011 German Grand Prix (Jul 22 - 24)

    Exhaust blown diffusers are back and Karun Chandhok will take Jarno Trulli's place in the Team Lotus car. The team is nevertheless adamant that it wants to continue with Trulli and have apparently opened contract negotiations. He blames his difficult season on the lack of feel from the power steering system. Practice starts in 90 minutes.
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    Alonso topped the first practice session:

    Pos Driver Team Time Laps
    1. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m31.894s 30
    2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m32.217s + 0.323 24
    3. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m32.268s + 0.374 27
    4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m32.681s + 0.787 23
    5. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m32.996s + 1.102 18
    6. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m33.628s + 1.734 22
    7. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m33.787s + 1.893 33
    8. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m33.832s + 1.938 27
    9. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m33.858s + 1.964 26
    10. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m33.863s + 1.969 31
    11. Vitaly Petrov Renault 1m34.094s + 2.200 22
    12. Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m35.115s + 3.221 23
    13. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m35.371s + 3.477 20
    14. Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1m35.389s + 3.495 24
    15. Nick Heidfeld Renault 1m35.444s + 3.550 22
    16. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m36.371s + 4.477 22
    17. Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1m36.392s + 4.498 29
    18. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1m36.842s + 4.948 29
    19. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m36.882s + 4.988 27
    20. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m38.504s + 6.610 22
    21. Karun Chandhok Lotus-Renault 1m38.765s + 6.871 19
    22. Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1m39.279s + 7.385 24
    23. Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1m40.109s + 8.215 23
    24. Jerome D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1m40.428s + 8.534 22

    Alonso goes quickest in first practice for the German Grand Prix - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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    Webber heads the second practice:

    Pos Driver Team Time Laps
    1. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m31.711s 34
    2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m31.879s + 0.168 38
    3. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m32.084s + 0.373 28
    4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m32.354s + 0.643 36
    5. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m32.411s + 0.700 31
    6. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m32.557s + 0.846 32
    7. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m32.724s + 1.013 28
    8. Nick Heidfeld Renault 1m33.098s + 1.387 17
    9. Vitaly Petrov Renault 1m33.138s + 1.427 22
    10. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m33.211s + 1.500 34
    11. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m33.225s + 1.514 17
    12. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m33.299s + 1.588 34
    13. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m34.113s + 2.402 34
    14. Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1m34.344s + 2.633 34
    15. Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m34.487s + 2.776 37
    16. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m34.491s + 2.780 35
    17. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1m34.996s + 3.285 35
    18. Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1m35.753s + 4.042 42
    19. Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1m36.940s + 5.229 32
    20. Karun Chandhok Lotus-Renault 1m37.248s + 5.537 33
    21. Jerome D'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1m37.313s + 5.602 33
    22. Tonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1m38.145s + 6.434 31
    23. Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1m40.737s + 9.026 5
    24. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari No time 3

    Webber tops second Friday German Grand Prix practice - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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    Webber on pole, Hamilton second, Vettel third, Alonso fourth; the top four drivers are within four tenths of each other.

    All the others a long way behind...
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    Look for the pre practice BBC footage of Nico driving DC on the Nordschleife !

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    Interesting race. That EVERYONE hoped for rain and stayed on the soft compound was surprising in a way. Would be curious to see time lost on primes calculated over the multiple stops everyone had to make to comply with tire regs... if any of the top 10 run a one stop race would it have made a difference in the outcome?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Look for the pre practice BBC footage of Nico driving DC on the Nordschleife !

    When David said he doesn't make a good passenger he wasn't joking
    What a hoot, grabbing for anything to hold on to... I like DC even more for this!

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    Interesting race indeed.

    Look there was someone overtaking some else!

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    Or something.
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    It was a good race, nice and close up front and a bunch of passing.. and not too much crashing! Buemi's coming together with Heidfeld coulda been much worse than it was, good thing it was just gravel trap there.

    As for tyres, I imagine with the same tyres and no regulation to use the both most teams would have still done what they did, only without the last stop or the last stint would have been on the softs. The comments from the BBC guys were that the softs were worth as many as 1.5 seconds a lap over the mediums, and given the close racing they still would've been burning them out pretty quick either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimento View Post
    As for tyres, I imagine with the same tyres and no regulation to use the both most teams would have still done what they did, only without the last stop or the last stint would have been on the softs. The comments from the BBC guys were that the softs were worth as many as 1.5 seconds a lap over the mediums, and given the close racing they still would've been burning them out pretty quick either way.
    And yet when the changed from soft to medium tyres, the top drivers at least, they started going faster. So maybe the medium tyres weren't as slow as they thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    And yet when the changed from soft to medium tyres, the top drivers at least, they started going faster. So maybe the medium tyres weren't as slow as they thought.
    What they compared were two new sets of tyres. By the time the front runners put on the mediums, the soft ones were probably worn away considerably and perhaps as much as 1.5 seconds slower compared to a fresh set. This wear is of course masked by the ever emptier fuel tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
    What they compared were two new sets of tyres. By the time the front runners put on the mediums, the soft ones were probably worn away considerably and perhaps as much as 1.5 seconds slower compared to a fresh set. This wear is of course masked by the ever emptier fuel tank.
    True, still perhaps the difference wasn't that great and staying out with soft worn tyres worse than pitting for fresh medium ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    True, still perhaps the difference wasn't that great and staying out with soft worn tyres worse than pitting for fresh medium ones.
    The point is that if they had their choice they'd've pitted the same amount of times, but they'd've put soft ones on again at the end. The timing differences speculated were from the practice and quali sessions.
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    Was a good race, good to see the performance tightening up at the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
    What they compared were two new sets of tyres. By the time the front runners put on the mediums, the soft ones were probably worn away considerably and perhaps as much as 1.5 seconds slower compared to a fresh set. This wear is of course masked by the ever emptier fuel tank.
    Not to mention the fact that at that point of the race the track is the most "rubber in". Fact is if they had stayed on old soft for longer they probably would've lost more time.

    Pretty exciting race, which had tension throughout, with position being changed in pitlane and on the track...
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