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  1. #1036
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    Multiple issues with Ford to gripe about today...

    https://jalopnik.com/2020-ford-musta...-60-1839875945

    https://jalopnik.com/ford-and-gms-de...ady-1839858417

    And I have to say "I told you so" for both of them.

    Ford guts their cheap sedans, is surprised when people don't end up buying their crossovers... because people actually wanted sedans.

    And no name is sacred anymore. It's worse than Porsche using Turbo for their Taycan. Why they would use Mustang for their electric crossover, I have no clue.

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    The Mustang thing is to tie it with the muscle car and drive sales... because marketing.

    Good news on people insisting with cars. However, from the article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jalopnik article
    Buyers are instead going for the Asian brands, which have kept up or even increased their small car lineups to pick up the slack. Ford and GM customers went for cars like the Hyundai Kona, Jeep Compass, Subaru Crosstrek, Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, or Kia Forte, all sensible options, so perhaps this is for the better for people actually buying the cars.
    On that list 50% of the vehicles mentioned are not cars...
    Lack of charisma can be fatal.
    Visca Catalunya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    The Mustang thing is to tie it with the muscle car and drive sales... because marketing.

    Good news on people insisting with cars. However, from the article...



    On that list 50% of the vehicles mentioned are not cars...
    I mean, I didn't want other car manufacturers to succeed at the expense of Ford. Ford did pretty well with the carpocalypse of 2008 and I still want them to do well. But yes, I guess that is the right punishment for stopping sedan production so early.

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    What I meant was that the carpocalypse is still on if you defect to a Jeep Compass from a Focus or a Cruze.
    Lack of charisma can be fatal.
    Visca Catalunya!

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    I see myself hopping in a Honda, Toyota, or Subaru for my next car.

    If I am fortunate to be able to afford a second fun car, that will change the calculus. But the focus on CUVs in this market is distasteful.

    In Canada, cars are pretty large, physically too. Lots of trucks and SUVs. We're like half a step smaller than the American marker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitdy View Post
    I see myself hopping in a Honda, Toyota, or Subaru for my next car.

    If I am fortunate to be able to afford a second fun car, that will change the calculus. But the focus on CUVs in this market is distasteful.

    In Canada, cars are pretty large, physically too. Lots of trucks and SUVs. We're like half a step smaller than the American marker.
    I noticed something familiar when I stepped into the Civic... that it was about the same size as my family's old 1983 Accord. The reason why I remember because it didn't have power door locks and remember reaching across the passenger side to unlock the door. And in the Civic, it's about the same arm span away.

    I mean, as long as Honda makes sedans with sticks, I'll be a happy man because I still need to cross that off my bucket list.

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    I agree...an electric 4-door SUV is not a Mustang...nor will it ever be to me. Ford's history of cars is awesome and they have cut their noses off to make trucks...sad.

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