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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Well, you still have the Mondeo... although I think it is on its way out soon. I suppose this also means no more Mondeo for us either...
    Is the Mondeo the Fusion? That stops production this year.

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    Yes, I think they are the same car, except that we don't get any of the powerful engines, have diesels and a 5 door liftback and estate model.

    Ours is built in Valencia, I think.
    Lack of charisma can be fatal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Yes, I think they are the same car, except that we don't get any of the powerful engines, have diesels and a 5 door liftback and estate model.

    Ours is built in Valencia, I think.
    Good to know.

    What's a Spaniard (Catalonian?)'s view on Seat? Right now I just see it as an appendage to VW, but did it ever make bespoke cars at the beginning?

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    Seat made Fiats under license from the beginning and they only made one "bespoke" car in the impasse between Fiat and Volkswagen, the Mk1 Ibiza (which was anyway based on the Ritmo floorpan).

    As for their reputation? Affordable family car with a small twist on sportiness, and usually regarded as something Spanish chavs/rednecks would drive in the case of FR and Cupra versions (although the latest Cupras are far too expensive for that...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Seat made Fiats under license from the beginning and they only made one "bespoke" car in the impasse between Fiat and Volkswagen, the Mk1 Ibiza (which was anyway based on the Ritmo floorpan).

    As for their reputation? Affordable family car with a small twist on sportiness, and usually regarded as something Spanish chavs/rednecks would drive in the case of FR and Cupra versions (although the latest Cupras are far too expensive for that...)
    Interesting... reminds me of offshoots of GM, maybe Oldsmobile or Pontiac. Started off with a few bespoke models and then became a shell of itself, maybe earlier.

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    Harry Metcalfe has an obvious concern about the all electric X5. Range anxiety.

    https://youtu.be/k15n6QAe8cE

    I could have told you that based on the review he had earlier.

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