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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    perhaps your confusion would be less if you don't use the silly word "commie", or have you been watching Fox-News lately?
    I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well to the internets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well to the internets.
    averted commas do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    No one buying Italian supercars in Italy...

    Checkpoint Carlo: How Tax Cops Killed Italys Supercar Market | Car and Driver Blog

    Yet, commie Euros represent almost half the worldwide market for supercars.

    Speed Sells: Charting Global Supercar Sales—with Charts! | Car and Driver Blog

    Eing?
    Thought this was an interesting piece on the Ferrari V8 market in general: A Look at the modern Ferrari V8 market | AvidSquare

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    Apparently Maserati are planning on doing something mid-engined that slots in below the GranTurismo, and isn't 4C based. Hopefully it'll be basically a new Dino. Ferrari won't do it, so Maserati might as well - if they do it right, it could be amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimento View Post
    Apparently Maserati are planning on doing something mid-engined that slots in below the GranTurismo, and isn't 4C based. Hopefully it'll be basically a new Dino. Ferrari won't do it, so Maserati might as well - if they do it right, it could be amazing.

    Not holding my breath, but it's nice to dream sometimes.
    Fiat's product planning has to be the most confusing in the world.

    Diesel saloons and mid-engined hardcore sportscars?

    Yes, that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Fiat's product planning has to be the most confusing in the world.

    Diesel saloons and mid-engined hardcore sportscars?

    Yes, that makes sense.
    That sounds like a current Audi lineup, doesn't it?

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    Or a Porsche one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revo View Post
    That sounds like a current Audi lineup, doesn't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by pimento View Post
    Or a Porsche one.
    Oh no! I've been defeated by capitalistical Germans!

    Bugger.
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    Ze vill get you efery time!

    Anyway, if Maserati are aiming to be between BMW, Porsche and 'entry level' Ferraris then at least they're thinking in the right direction. Hopefully they can make some strides down that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimento View Post
    Anyway, if Maserati are aiming to be between BMW, Porsche and 'entry level' Ferraris then at least they're thinking in the right direction. Hopefully they can make some strides down that way.
    In theory it does makes sense - having a Maserati for Audi money is very enticing. But remember we are talking about Fiat here, I fear they'll probably find a way to **** up...

    Also, Jaguar's downmarket adventures were a little bit less than successful so it has to be done carefully.

    Oh and it pains to see that a car maker like Maserati which should be doing battle with Ferrari and Aston Martin is relegated to fight with diesel Audi A6s...
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    Ferrari going turbo.

    Turbo V6 for next Ferrari 458 - PistonHeads

    Again.
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    Hmm.. not confrimed, but not unsurprising. I expected more turbos from Ferrari since the announcement of the Maserati engines, but I did kinda think they'd at least go the V8. The whole F1 going V6s is a good point though.
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    Yes it does indeed make sense.

    Too much sense.

    But if the want to go against the McLarens and Porsches they'll have to boost it heavily. The V8 is probably a better candidate.
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    When searching old negatives I found these beauties.
    This was the state of my car, at the tender age of 15 months, in mid 1986....6 months later I received a phone call from somebody who said he now had it and wanted the instruction manual

    The guy who caused this was a certain Van Gogh, I did not cut his ear off. On one of the shots you can see our webmaster at a very young age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pimento View Post
    Hmm.. not confrimed, but not unsurprising. I expected more turbos from Ferrari since the announcement of the Maserati engines, but I did kinda think they'd at least go the V8. The whole F1 going V6s is a good point though.
    Wow, to me that's surprising, although they did start off with V6s in the Dinos.

    Most interesting to me is that the Acura NSX is also V6, and possibly turboed.

    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    When searching old negatives I found these beauties.
    This was the state of my car, at the tender age of 15 months, in mid 1986....6 months later I received a phone call from somebody who said he now had it and wanted the instruction manual

    The guy who caused this was a certain Van Gogh, I did not cut his ear off. On one of the shots you can see our webmaster at a very young age.
    I'm not getting your sarcasm. So what happened exactly?

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