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    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    NSX was one of its development inspiration...McLaren's goal was a usable car with superlative performance...They still seem to be following that philosophy even with the 12C...This though is IMO overstyled...
    Yes, I remember reading that Gordon Murray was very impressed with the NSX and wanted Honda to make an engine for the F1. However Honda was not able to provide an engine and he got one from BMW instead.

    Agreed- the styling of the 12C is nice. This is too over the top, like the Ferraris are today. They stopped looking nice to me at the F430.

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    Murray wants a Honda engine because they were powering McLaren's Formula 1 cars.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    NSX was one of its development inspiration...McLaren's goal was a usable car with superlative performance...They still seem to be following that philosophy even with the 12C...This though is IMO overstyled...
    It is indeed curious that, while the MP4-12C seems to follow the F1's mantra, this looks completely out of touch with the classic McLaren philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    It is indeed curious that, while the MP4-12C seems to follow the F1's mantra, this looks completely out of touch with the classic McLaren philosophy.
    Maybe not in a styling sense, but how do you feel it's out of touch?

    I feel like if it is out to top the F1, it already is following the classic McLaren philosophy. If the KERS is functional and helps it go faster, I don't see why it's a problem.

    It's the same idea with the Porsche 918 I feel- I'm okay with the hybrid system when the V8 is already potent and sounds wonderful.

    That's not the same vibe I get for the new Acura NSX though- I feel that Honda's priority is still fuel economy and that's holding it back from developing an all out driver's car. I still hope it comes out okay though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXType-R View Post
    Maybe not in a styling sense, but how do you feel it's out of touch?
    I actually I meant in terms of styling, since we don't know anything yet about the engineering.
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    That's not the same vibe I get for the new Acura NSX though- I feel that Honda's priority is still fuel economy and that's holding it back from developing an all out driver's car. I still hope it comes out okay though.
    I believe the NSX is one of those cars, like the Delta HF Integrale or the 205 GTI, that is almost impossible to replace.

    (It's curious that most "impossible" cars have their origins in the 80's...)
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    Peloton took these:
    McLaren P1 Reveal - Paris 2012 - a set on Flickr

    Its growing on me, seeing it outside of the rendering gives it a bit more definition....definitely interesting...
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    and there are no engine shots...
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    and there are no engine shots...
    Is there an engine actually...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Is there an engine actually...?
    Doubtful, and no interior either.

    As for now a true rolling concept.

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    AFAIK its just a styling buck with some functioning bit added.
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    I like it much much better with the wing up

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    Now a week after seeing it for the first time, it seems to be getting uglier, not that it was pretty before.

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    Anyone have the pics from Bahrain?
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