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    Legends of Le Mans

    Le Mans panel picks its legendary cars - Grapevine - Le Mans - AUTOSPORT.com

    I can't find the original list, apparently 3 cars were picked by ACO in each decade and then the fans and panelists voted to decide the final winner....

    Apparently R8 was not even in ACO's list, although I guess they really wanted the car to not feature....despite its 5 Le Mans wins in 6 years....
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    Same old, same old i'm betting. Bentley 3 Litre, Ford GT40, Porsche 917... i really think it's time for more obscure cars to be recognized. While it's still really cool that the famous cars have been restored it would be even cooler to get some recognition to some pretty rare machines.

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    Prob was they were only offering few per decade.
    So the Matra 3 in a row that surely merits the 670 series and it's V12 as "Legendary" didn't really stand much of a chance with fanboys represented by the main "marques" and French vote split with the Alpine
    Twenties
    - Chenard & Walcker Sport 1923
    - Lorraine Dietrich B3-6 1925
    - Bentley Speed Six 1930

    Thirties
    - Alfa Romeo 8C 1933
    - Bugatti 57 G 1937
    - Delahaye 135 S 1938

    Forties
    - Ferrari 166 MM 1949
    - Simca Gordini 1949
    - Delage D6 S 1949

    Fifties
    - Mercedes 300 SL 1952
    - Jaguar D 1957
    - Aston Martin DBR 1 1959

    Sixties
    - Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa 1960
    - Ford GT 40 1969
    - Porsche 908 1969

    Seventies
    - Porsche 917 K 1971
    - Matra Simca MS 670 1974
    - Renault Alpine A 442 b 1978

    Eighties
    - Rondeau M379 1980
    - Porsche 956 1982
    - Jaguar XJR 9 LM 1988

    Nineties
    - Mazda 787 B 1991
    - Peugeot 905 1992
    - BMW V12 LMR 1999

    Noughties (2000)
    - Bentley EXP Speed 8 2003
    - Audi R10 TDI 2006
    - Peugeot 909 HDi FAP 2009

    2010s
    - Audi R18 TDI 2011
    - Nissan DeltaWing 2012
    - Audi e-tron quattro 2012
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    Noughties (2000)
    - Bentley EXP Speed 8 2003
    - Audi R10 TDI 2006
    - Peugeot 909 HDi FAP 2009
    Typical ACO agenda here...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    Typical ACO agenda here...lol
    Hard one, they've have been lambasted if Audi were listed TWICE for the same decade
    and hell yeah, it's a FRENCH race, of course they can put the Peugeot forward !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Hard one, they've have been lambasted if Audi were listed TWICE for the same decade
    and hell yeah, it's a FRENCH race, of course they can put the Peugeot forward !!!
    It doesnt matter if there are 2 Audis, The R8 was THE Le Man Car Of the 2000s. The End
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    Delta Wing?

    Peugeot 909?

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    Quote Originally Posted by faksta View Post
    Delta Wing?

    Peugeot 909?
    Same here, only got 3 years worth to go by so the list is inevitably contrived for the 10s
    I give the Nissan legend status as it was against all odds and personally I didn't see it making it round Porsche curves flat out
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    Quote Originally Posted by faksta View Post
    Peugeot 909?
    It's the new ultra-modern prototype!

    It's so new they haven't realsed it yet.

    But if they wint they have until 2009 to unveil it!

    Wait...

    Or something.
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    Hmm no Talbot?
    Last edited by Cobrafan427; 02-04-2013 at 11:48 AM. Reason: wrong car lol

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    Mugen, an Audi fan will say that and want both in and then chose. A French fan will want the Peugeot for it's achievement. IT's all subjective and the voting would have gone nowhere if they just said any car. Had to cut it down somehow and yeah, cobra, I hadn't noticed no Talbot. Which is even MORE crazy. Audi won when few others were investing at the same level. GOing back 50 years many cars were competing with similar investment and support. It's easy to win with money But it wont make a legend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Mugen, an Audi fan will say that and want both in and then chose. A French fan will want the Peugeot for it's achievement. IT's all subjective and the voting would have gone nowhere if they just said any car. Had to cut it down somehow and yeah, cobra, I hadn't noticed no Talbot. Which is even MORE crazy. Audi won when few others were investing at the same level. GOing back 50 years many cars were competing with similar investment and support. It's easy to win with money But it wont make a legend
    I dunno if thats fair. Audi did no more work in the car after 2002. Ran with heavier weight, less downforce and power and still won 2 more times....The car won almost 80% of the races it entered(ALMS, ELMS included, where there are actually competition in sprint races) and had ZERO engine failure from 2000 to 2006 when it retired.....

    People can talk all they want about Audi beat no one in those years, they didn't exactly sit around....and they moved the goal post considerably for what needs to be done to win Le Mans....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine View Post
    Mugen, an Audi fan will say that and want both in and then chose. A French fan will want the Peugeot for it's achievement. IT's all subjective and the voting would have gone nowhere if they just said any car. Had to cut it down somehow and yeah, cobra, I hadn't noticed no Talbot. Which is even MORE crazy. Audi won when few others were investing at the same level. GOing back 50 years many cars were competing with similar investment and support. It's easy to win with money But it wont make a legend
    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    I dunno if thats fair. Audi did no more work in the car after 2002. Ran with heavier weight, less downforce and power and still won 2 more times....The car won almost 80% of the races it entered(ALMS, ELMS included, where there are actually competition in sprint races) and had ZERO engine failure from 2000 to 2006 when it retired.....

    People can talk all they want about Audi beat no one in those years, they didn't exactly sit around....and they moved the goal post considerably for what needs to be done to win Le Mans....
    Well I doubt some blokes in nothern Italy could match the resources of a North American multinational corporation, yet that doesn't make the GT40 less of a legend, does it?
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    ... That depends on your definition of legend.

    Subjective awards are fun food for thought, but not to be taken seriously in my eyes.

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    :cough: it took a small team in England to make the GT40 a success

    and success outside of La Sarthe I didn't even think was up for consideration as it's a Club L'Ouest anniversary and award


    and yes it's a bit of fun ... and there's no more fun than winding up a fan
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