Monaro series III

[crisis]

Series III 245kw, new colour. Some said it would'nt last1

[Falcon500]

well the GTo program may be in jepardy ive heard as a cut back GM are thinking of giving Buick or pontiac the boot it would be quite bad for holden if they got rid of ponitac all considring they got their production line ready to mass produce them on a giant scale

[fpv_gtho]

gm wont get rid of pontiac, thats there performance car devision

[crisis]

Big smack to whoever ordered all the GTOs if they now ditch Pontiac.

[Falcon500]

not ever since the dissaperance of the F-body and i would of assumed that chevrolet with the corvette would be considerd the performance car devision. Pontiac had a car called the sunfire it was a giant flop plus with the alling sales of grand ams and basicly their entier line up it will basicly be a coin toss between them and buick i wouldent of believed it if they hadnt of dropped oldmobile before hand and dropped the F-body after the mustang manged to outsell it 4-1

[fpv_gtho]

if u were to think chev as the performance devision ud have to think of holden the same way, theyre just the everyday cars, some bread and butter models, some performance models

[Falcon500]

you could be like that but my guess there is based on what they make ie the corvette where pontiac has the GTO (which is only still arriving there) put them up head to head and i think well find a winner very quickly. But ok given what you just said crises what would you call GMs performance arm Caddilac with its new rwd cars powerd by the Northstar engine and with a caddilac cien that has been on the back burner for 10 years?pontiac with our recycled GTO? buick with nothing that comes to mind?olds wich is dead? as a serious queastion what would be gms current performance arm??they seem to be killing off a lot of their lineup

[crisis]

I have no ****in idea. I didnt say anything. The only performace car I know out of GM USA is the Corvette.

[fpv_gtho]

pontiac techincally, cadillac r gm's luxury devision. the way i c it, ford and chev r competitors, mercury and pontiac r competitors and lincoln and cadillac r competitors

[Falcon500]

Originally posted by crisis
I have no ****in idea. I didnt say anything. The only performace car I know out of GM USA is the Corvette.

exactly what is going on with GM have they lost the plot or somthing? they seem to be receding on a large scale when you look outside our little country

[fpv_gtho]

i guess u havent heard of the monte carlo ss, although its fwd

[crisis]

Originally posted by fpv_gtho
i guess u havent heard of the monte carlo ss, although its fwd

Bad luck to those in the US. FWD is a thing of the devil.

[fpv_gtho]

imagine seeing 240hp goin through the front wheels of a car. picture that and thats the monte carlo ss

[crisis]

Originally posted by fpv_gtho
imagine seeing 240hp goin through the front wheels of a car. picture that and thats the monte carlo ss

Thats just a cynical "heres a performance car now shut up" exercise by Chev. I cant believe people in the US would buy that shit. Not when the die hards are complaining that the GTO/Monaro is just another bubble car and doesnt have a 70's enough grille.

[fpv_gtho]

how much do u reckon the monaro fans r gunna b whinging once pontiac finalise the design for the hood scoops? do u reckon they can get 5.5 0-100km/h out of 260kw? thats the american predictions, but i read somewhere that american testers take things off the engine that restrict the power