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    Carlos Sainz Retires

    Double world rally champion Carlos Sainz has announced he will retire from rallying at the end of this year. The 42-year-old has won a record-breaking 26 rallies for teams including Toyota, Ford, Subaru and Citroen, in addition to his titles in 1990 and 1992.

    Sainz has been weighing up whether to retire from the sport or compete in a limited selection of European rallies in 2005 throughout the course of this year, but finally announced today that he will leave rallying to spend more time with his family. His decision could put the seal on the various moves of the driver market for next year, with Ford drivers Markko Martin and Francois Duval hotly tipped to fill the second seats at Peugeot and Citroen respectively.

    “During the last month and after 16 years participating in the World Rally Championship I have decided to make a big change in my life in order to have a little more time to spend with my family,” he said on his official website. “During these last two years we have been able to win the Manufacturers’ World Rally Championship with Citroen and we have also been fighting for the podium in each rally, achieving the record of 26 victories in the last Rally of Argentina.

    “After all this, I think it is a good moment for me to leave the World Rally Championship. It has been a extremely difficult decision, mainly because I still enjoy a lot every single rally. The fact that I am at the moment in the best team with the possibility of continuing during the next season, make this decision even more complicated.

    “I would like to thank Citroen for these last two years of my career where I have been enjoying and at the same time working with the best team. It has been a great pleasure to work in such a professional and capable team where since the first engineer until the last mechanics the only objective is the victory. The Citroen team has shown that it is the best and I hope that in the future we can somhow continue to have some kind of relationship. I would like to thank as well the support and confidence that Mr. Satinet, Magda Salarich and Guy Frequelin have shown me and I hope I haven’t deceived them.

    “I also want to thank the whole national and international press that have followed me all over the world with their support and collaboration throughout these years. I would also like to thank very specially the thousands of fans who have shown me their affection in all the countries. I would not like to end without thanking all the members of the team with whom I have been working, as well as to the manufactures that I have been racing with - Seat, Renault, Ford, Toyota, Lancia, Subaru and Citroen - and to my friends at Pirelli and Michelin, with whom I have shared many hours of effort and work.

    “Of course a special mention as well to my sponsors, for their confidence during these years, specially to Telefónica and Repsol, and I would not like forget all my codrivers, Juanjo Lacalle, Antonio Boto, Luis Moya and Marc Martí that have been working with me throughout all these years.

    "I would also like to thank The Spanish Federation, The Real Automobile Club of Catalunya, The Real Automobile Club of Spain and The Spanish Ministery of Sports that have always been next to me. And to finish up I would like to thank all my friends and my family specially my wife Reyes who has been and incredible support. I apologize if I forget somebody, that’s why I repeat thank you to everybody.”



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    what a pity, he is my favourite rally driver

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    Quote Originally Posted by dydzi
    what a pity, he is my favourite rally driver
    My favourite was gone last year: Colin. And now my "neighbour" Sainz.
    Last year also have seen the demise of Tommi Makinnen.

    The result of all this demises is clear: Rally Championship is empty of caracter or caracterful drivers.

    Cars are now variations of the same issue with technological add-ons...

    I guess a revolution in WRC is needed. And has Colin once said, it would pass by aspirated engines that sound like real race cars. Like BDA's use to scream!!

    To whom has gone to rallys this late years is easy to understand the importance of this issue. Who didn't love the sound of the 306 Maxi / Mégane Maxi / Golf Kit Car ? (Stratos keeps earing them at Madeira)

    And if we want to add emotion without a climb of speed, take off all the driver aids and bring back RWD. That's what really made rallying spectacular: drinving techniques and real skillful drivers.

    FIA should think about it, and keep away foullish things like the "1000 pistes" recognition sistem that only makes rallying much more dangerous to public.
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    Carlos Sainz NOT in a WRC car....testing Toyota GT-One...
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    "El Matador" will be missed in the WRC. But he's achieved a lot, it's better to leave at a good moment than to leave when your career is going down hill. I wish him luck in what ever he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McReis
    Last year also have seen the demise of Tommi Makinnen.
    Careful there, as far as I know he isn't dead yet.
    He has left the WRC though.

    Quote Originally Posted by McReis
    if we want to add emotion without a climb of speed, take off all the driver aids and bring back RWD. That's what really made rallying spectacular: drinving techniques and real skillful drivers.

    FIA should think about it, and keep away foullish things like the "1000 pistes" recognition sistem that only makes rallying much more dangerous to public.
    Very good points.

    You could argue that rallying is very much a spectator sport.
    People want to stand as close to the cars as possible - which isn't ideal in terms of safety.

    At the moment the cars are fast, but 4wd gives lots of grip and traction, but even so, they can still be sent off into the scenery by tricky conditions - Rally of Germany springs to mind.

    Having the drivers in rwd, whilst increasing the spectacle of the rallying, means that there is more potential for loss of car control, and possibly injuries to spectators.

    This could be controlled by moving the spectators further away - but what is the point of having rallying if no-one can see it?
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    one of my favorite rally drivers retires .. ( (
    the Citroen team this year was probably a dream team .. hard to beat it ..
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    Shame to see one of the best drivers leave, strange to think that the spanish squash champion (think he was champ ) got into such an amazing career.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taz
    "El Matador" will be missed in the WRC
    he will still be helping out, being the main test driver for Citroen, im guessing that we'll still hear quite alot of him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcreis
    And if we want to add emotion without a climb of speed, take off all the driver aids and bring back RWD. That's what really made rallying spectacular: drinving techniques and real skillful drivers.
    The WRC is still spectacular, just because its not RWD any more doesnt mean that it can be any less spectacular, i mean taky Marko Martin in Wales, and In france last weekend, driving with a fire in his engine and still finished the stage 11 seconds ahead of everyone else

    Also see vid courtasy of MetA

    Quote Originally Posted by DasM
    the Citroen team this year was probably a dream team .. hard to beat it ..
    If you think about it, its still going to be a very competative team next year, with having Duval in there, he is a good driver and i think soon will start bringing the points in, wee all know that loeb is probably gonna be the main champ contender again next year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coventrysucks
    Having the drivers in rwd, whilst increasing the spectacle of the rallying, means that there is more potential for loss of car control, and possibly injuries to spectators.

    This could be controlled by moving the spectators further away - but what is the point of having rallying if no-one can see it?

    Thing is with RWD cars have less traction, and therefore, carry less speed.
    You now how last years accidents have been so dramatical. Remember When Colin lost his championship with is last roll with Nicky Grist? Remember when Tommi saw his co-driver be rescued by helicopter? Remenber when Gilles and Hervé Panizzi colided with all those trees leaving Hervé with slow recovery?

    This means that faster is more dangerous.

    I recall that group B was banned not only bacause the combination of fiberglass body and under-seat tank was explosive, but mainly because they went stupidly fast. A lost faster on straights than a WRC. WRC's are presently faster than Group B's through corners although slower in straight line.

    My point is that I don't think less traction would make it more dangerous because everything would have to be re-mesured. Speed, confidence, technique. Drivers would be more important again.

    And think about the kind of cars that would be produced to homologate such machinery!
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    If it would be RWD, then only the BMW-1 series could compete. I really don't think that mainstream manufacturers will start making RWD homologation specials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4
    If it would be RWD, then only the BMW-1 series could compete. I really don't think that mainstream manufacturers will start making RWD homologation specials.
    I know..

    That's the main problem and I guess that is the reason why there are no more interesting low budget cars being made. RWD as become a luxury.
    That's why by the end this year, my Pug will be leaving so I can addopt a Miata. Later I'll be buying a LSD, and then is fun all the way, with my low budget.

    Imagine a Miata rallying! Quite a view!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by McReis
    Imagine a Miata rallying! Quite a view!!!
    It's done a lot in Oz/NZ, I'm sure Iv'e nseen pics of one on Targa Tasmania - but damned if I can find it now.

    Also in the UK a really-prep company are developing an MX5 for the forest events over hear. now THAT will be interesting as it's main class competition will be the Escort Mk2s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
    It's done a lot in Oz/NZ, I'm sure Iv'e nseen pics of one on Targa Tasmania - but damned if I can find it now.

    Also in the UK a really-prep company are developing an MX5 for the forest events over hear. now THAT will be interesting as it's main class competition will be the Escort Mk2s
    I'd love to see that. I'll be looking for them over the web.

    There are so many make trophys in rallyes, like Saxo, Punto and such... Why not a Mazda one in Europe? That would be awesome!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by McReis
    I'd love to see that. I'll be looking for them over the web.

    There are so many make trophys in rallyes, like Saxo, Punto and such... Why not a Mazda one in Europe? That would be awesome!!
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    There was one-make racing for the MX5, but it's now replaced with the RX-8 series I believe.

    But Mazda haven't paid any attention to rallying since the 323 - sadly. So it's up to prep companies live Coventry to try it out it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
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    There was one-make racing for the MX5, but it's now replaced with the RX-8 series I believe.

    But Mazda haven't paid any attention to rallying since the 323 - sadly. So it's up to prep companies live Coventry to try it out it seems.

    We had a circuit compettion with MX5 here in Portugal. Races of 3 hours and 2 pilots per car... It was stupidly expensive, and after two years the pilot investors saw the demise of the trophy and were left with the cars that no one wants...
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