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Old 10-26-2004, 07:45 PM
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Bugatti Sends Veyron 16.4 Into Production

After much hype, delay, and crashes they are finally set to build the beast.
1001BHP. If it can do it, it will be the fastest production car ever made.

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Old 10-26-2004, 07:54 PM
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Man... finally!
I can't wait for it to appear on top gear i wonder what took them so long? and why 1001 BHP?
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:56 PM
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about time!!!!
will it join Enzo, GT, and SLR?
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:58 PM
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about time!!!!
will it join Enzo, GT, and SLR?
Nope, it will join the Mclaren F1 and Koenigsegg CCR
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Hope all goes well

The article is stateing 250mph top end speed, but I'm still having my doughts. I'll go see if I can find a press release.
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:59 PM
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Why 1001 BHP?

Coz it has a W16 engine with quad (4) superchargers.....cool....
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:02 PM
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Coz it has a W16 engine with quad (4) superchargers.....cool....
i mean what's with the 1 extra horse power? can't they make it even? like 1000, or 1010 or 1100?
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:03 PM
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"Without any interruption in the power flow, the sequential seven-speed gearbox transmits the engine’s power to the wheels via permanent four-wheel drive. Put simply, this means uninterrupted acceleration from a standing start to maximum speed: a feeling previously known only to jet pilots."

all it needs is wings....
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"Without any interruption in the power flow, the sequential seven-speed gearbox transmits the engine’s power to the wheels via permanent four-wheel drive. Put simply, this means uninterrupted acceleration from a standing start to maximum speed: a feeling previously known only to jet pilots."

all it needs is wings....
and u can travel around the world!!! lol
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:35 PM
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its turbochargers, not superchargers, wonder why they got it like that in that 1 website, but they look driven by exhaust rather than a pulley.

anywayz, i wouldn't mind an AWD with 1001bhp.
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i've downloaded the prototype video off the net.
Yes it did sound like a jet plane... but it didnt look to me like it was a really fast car...
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Sorry to piss on your chips, but that press release came out on October 14th last year.

A more recent article about how crap the Veyron is:
"It has been hyped more than any other car. It was due to be launched two months ago and be capable of hitting a record 252 mph. But now it seems the Volkswagen Group’s new supercar will be delayed until 2005 and could be coming with a new limited top speed of 218 mph.

Just what are the problems that have dogged the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 and why might it even be 2006 before it is among us: Richard Oakley reports.

As a D4 schoolgirl might say it’s like, oh my God, just soooooo embarrassing. You plan the world’s fastest production car. You put the drool-producing machine on public display at every motor show and you tell anyone who’ll listen just how good it is going to be when it becomes available in April 2004.
You boast about how it will be a 252 mph world-beater; better than anything Ferrari or Mercedes or BMW has ever done and faster than the legendary McLaren F1 or the Ferrari Enzo.
Then as the world waits with bated breath and those with $1.2m get their cheque books out you realise there are problems. Not just minor, niggly ones either, but real ones if all the reports are to be believed.

You deny there is anything wrong and you continue to do so; right up to the point where you can no longer hide the fact that your own deadline is not going to be met You then have to admit this to the world at a time when it emerges that the car’s top speed may be, ehm… limited to 218 mph. You also have to tell everyone that the car has yet to reach satisfactory standards.

This is the unfortunate situation VW-owned Bugatti has found itself in. The company has hyped the Veyron so much that its’ continue failure to appear has made it a laughing stock. Despite the fact that Bugatti is building a car that should have everyone on bended knees offering thanks, it is getting nothing but bad press. Bugatti’s history as a maker of amazingly lavish, but spectacular failures is being dragged up as people question if VW has bitten off more than it can chew. Worse still there are suggestions in some parts that the Veyron is now tainted and will always be known as the supercar that “had problems” even it it lives up to its billing when we finally get it.

It shouldn’t be so. On paper this car is awesome. The figures tell you that. Two-seats, four wheel drive, a Formula-One inspired seven-speed sequential manual transmission. It has an 8.0-litre, W16, 64-valve powerplant with four turbochargers. It comes with an output of 1,001 bhp and 922lb-ft of torque at 2,200-5,500 rpm.

It whips from 0-62 mph in three seconds and goes through 200 mph, 11 seconds later. On paper it is also well conceived. Structurally it has a single-piece monocoque body with front and rear aluminium sub-frames. Fresh air is ducted through grilles ahead of the rear wheels and on either side of the roof. At high speeds a rear spoiler is deployed to create extra downforce. This also acts as an air brake during an emergency stop.

There is no escaping the problems, however, and the Veyron has had a few. They started last year with claims that the car’s engineers were, not unsurprisingly, having difficulty efficiently dispersing the immense heat generated by the turbo-charge cylinders. The answer would be to cut holes in the bodywork of the car, but when it’s a designer product you just can’t do that. It’s not a racing car after all.

Next it was alleged that test drivers pushing the Veyron close to its 252 mph limit found that it began lifting and that the steering was vague at high speeds. Bernd Pischetsrieder, the chairman of VW, tested the Veyron last summer and was reported to be concerned about the handling.

There were publicity disasters too for VW and personnel changes increased suspicions that all was not well. A mule version of the car crashed at over 200 mph during testing and then there came the now famous incident at the first public demonstration of the car last August. The Veyron was wheeled out at an event celebrating Bugattis at the Leguna Race Track in California. A test driver got a little excited. The car swerved off the track and ended up in a gravel trap, just missing a concrete wall.

There were also reports that Karl Heinz Neumann, the boss of Bugatti, had been let go. They were denied, but he retired by the end of last year. Now it seems all the above problems, which were also denied remember, have been resolved, but it’s now known they have played a part in delaying the car and knocked Bugatti’s confidence back a bit.

As the car’s release deadline, April 2004, arrived and passed there was more bad news. Sources close to the company told AutoWeek that Thomas Bscher, Bugatti’s new boss had made changes, one of which was a decision to limit the car’s top speed to 218mph. The story, if true, suggests the rumours about stability problems at high speeds could have been close to the mark.

Bugatti had to comment publicly about the delays and did, only to confirm that they could be longer than we thought. Citing “demanding quality standards’ imposed on the car by parent company VW, officials confirmed that the first example of the car is not scheduled to roll from its assembly line in France until the second half of 2005. Newspapers reported informed sources as saying that it could, in fact, be 2006, and late 2006 at that, before the car is ready.

Even if this new deadline is met a lot of damage has been done to the Veyron. Articles have appeared with panels referring to “other” white elephant cars such as the Renault Avantime and the Jaguar XJ 220. It hasn’t helped that orders for the car are believed to be far below expectation. Just 300 will be made and it is believed at this stage that only about 25 have been ordered.

If anything can improve this situation and make people forget its eventful development, however, it is the car itself. Despite the reported decision to limit the speed of full -production versions of the cars, Bugatti are to try for a world record for production cars later this year by pushing the Veyron to 252 mph. If it manages this, you can expect a flurry of orders, much triumphalism from Bugatti, and that photo of the Veyron in the gravel trap to be printed small beside a big one of the car smashing its way above 250 mph.

Where did the Veyron come from?

Ferdinand Piech, the former head of VW, was the man who rubber-stamped the Veyron project. More than one commentator had referred to Piech as an egotist and it was well known that he wanted the VW group to have one up on BMW and Mercedes when he was in charge. VW had bought Bugatti in 1998 and the Veyron, planned as the world’s fastest production car ever, provided the opportunity. When it is launched its 1001 bhp power output will far exceed that of any comparable car."
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Old 10-26-2004, 10:11 PM
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^ But if u go on the main page of rsportscars.com u can actually see when that article was released... which was on the 22nd of october 2004
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Old 10-26-2004, 10:17 PM
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Phenomenal....ly ridiculous. Really, if it works, huzzah! Another car that you'll never get close to, if ever you even see one. If Bugatti made less ridiculous cars, say something like the Spyker C8, then this would be a great image car, but as something purely to be the only car of the brand? It is a tad mad. Fantastic and great, if it all works, yet totally mad.
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Old 10-26-2004, 11:27 PM
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why 1001 BHP?
Numerology? Palindromic number? Definitive @ a thousand and one, more than a thousand? Cultural or mystical significance, 1001 Arabian Nights? Superstition? Magic? Some palindromes that lead to success in the auto industry: CIVIC, read the same forward or backwards. Also, 'A TOYOTA' reads 'ATOYOT A'. Toyota was originally Toyopet, not very palindrome friendly. Good question!

Mystery and mystique? It's already started with the release. When, why, how, where, etc?
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