Will Hydrogen cars ever take over?

[ZemoButts]

i was just wondering when do u guys think hydrogen will be the standard fuel for cars?

[GT F1]

The year 2030.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Depends. At the moment, a basic Honda one will cost about £250,000/$400,000US.

BUT loads of manufacturers have been dabbling with it- BMW, Ford, Vauxhall, Volvo, Honda, Toyota, et al. They have to work on outputs.

It should be a fairly easy thing to work with, one of the 2 ingredients of petrol is hydrogen (it's a hydrocarbon!), so it's just half a hydrocarbon

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

And in answer to your question, 2030 onwards? 2020 if we're lucky.

[GT F1]

will hydrogen stations be unmanned?

[heryandy0210]

Considering the world's oil reserve is around 60-80 years, they should start putting more effort into the technology.

[GT F1]

Considering the world's oil reserve is around 60-80 years, they should start putting more effort into the technology.

alot of oil is sour crude.

[heryandy0210]

alot of oil is sour crude.

Then I guess that we would have develop hydrogen engines a lot quicker then.

[lightweight]

Well not only the technology has to be effective, but also the transition from petrol to the new technology has to be smooth and not very costly
there are technologies that compete whoch one will take over
-hydrogen
-fuel cells

these are the most famous. IMHO the cheaper-safer-more conservative approach will prevail.

[GT F1]

Well not only the technology has to be effective, but also the transition from petrol to the new technology has to be smooth and not very costly
there are technologies that compete whoch one will take over
-hydrogen
-fuel cells

these are the most famous. IMHO the cheaper-safer-more conservative approach will prevail.

I thought fuel cells run on hydrogen.

[ZemoButts]

they already have hydrogen stations in swizzerland (only for gov vechicles) but i think they should be putting them in the US since they pollute the atmosphere the most

P.S. Hydrogen and Hydrocarbons are two differnt things

[lightweight]

I thought fuel cells run on hydrogen.

Well it's not the same.

The hydrogen engine is an internal combustion engine that burns hydrogen instead of petrol or diesel

The fuel cell combines hydrogen and oxygen and converts it into water, but not through combustion.

So I suppose they both use hydrogen, but in a different way.

BMW experimented extensively on hydrogen internal combustion engines. They presented a 7 series and a prototype that did some records. But its engine was a 6 litre V12 producing about 250 horses. need more work i say...

[GT F1]

Well it's not the same.

The hydrogen engine is an internal combustion engine that burns hydrogen instead of petrol or diesel

The fuel cell combines hydrogen and oxygen and converts it into water, but not through combustion.

So I suppose they both use hydrogen, but in a different way.

BMW experimented extensively on hydrogen internal combustion engines. They presented a 7 series and a prototype that did some records. But its engine was a 6 litre V12 producing about 250 horses. need more work i say...

I learned something new today.

[ZemoButts]

wanna learn even more hydrogen fuel cells were invented in 1836 so they've been around for quite sometime

[Coventrysucks]

Ford wants to be selling fuel cell cars in 2012.

I think hydrogen is the wrong route.

It will take a lot of time, money and energy to start creating hydrogen in any meaningful volumes, so you aren't really reducing the ammounts of energy needed via fossil fuels, just moving it from the cars themselves to the hydrogen plants.

Also you'd need to rebuild the entire infrastructure.

Biodiesel can be grown almost anywhere, with no pollution, and can run in an unmodified diesel engine.

Why not use that?

All "pollution" coming out the back of the car is part of the natural carbon cycle, so it isn't adding to the ammount of CO2 as fossil fuels do.