A work of pure genius! - Brilliant "Revetec" Engine

[revetec]

I came to this forum for technical explanation, and nothing more. Nothing more technical to explain as there has been no more technical questions, so I no longer need to come in and post here.

Utimatecarpage is a great website and as for the Technical forum, it has been a great place to discuss our technology, which I have enjoyed doing so. The Company mudslinging is not in the spirit of the forum, and it seems some people on here want to increase their ego publically on here instead of contacting me direct and asking specifically company orientated questions. Most company comments made on here from these people are made up from asumptions, instead of facts, and I'm sure people coming to a Technical forum is not looking for the current content which is being posted.

So Dennis, I wasn't told to stay off, there has just been no good valid technical questions to answer. I'm waiting for you guys to ring me on company questions

I wonder if Brad has been told to stay off this site as unfortunately the spin gets him in more trouble that he anticipated.

Lets hope the Peus Agreement is GREAT for the shareholders & the technology !

[revetec]

For your information...

Revetec has signed a engine Development and Licensing agreement with Atalan Makine - 17/07/2010

A few months back we were contacted by Atalan Makine in Turkey. Their technical Director, Hakan Atalan was very keen to talk to us about developing a Revetec engine and a Licensing Agreement. After months of conversing, setting out a development schedule, and negotiation, Company Director Steve Valtas travelled to Turkey to meet with Hakan to finalise an agreement.

The Directors are pleased to announce that we have signed a Development and Licensing Agreement with Atalan Makine and they will immediately start to design, develop and build CNG and Diesel prototype engines for production.

[FireyB]

... what does everyone think?

Hmm... I was expecting a more positive, technical discussion from everyone, rather than the standard whine about personal investment choices...

I've all but given hope of ever seeing any of my money again, or should I say a return on my money invested.

Not cool... Keep it to yourself.

... there has just been no good valid technical questions to answer. ...

Brad, it was mentioned somewhere (I can't seem to find where, possibly the AGM?) that PEUS would work towards endurance testing on the engine, can you give any indication to how things are progressing at PEUS and how far away they are from endurance tests?

Congrats on the latest developments too; it's good to see that all your hard work is producing more and more positive results as time goes on

[revetec]

Peus performed a great number of modifications. The engine is now running and the engine will be run in for 100 hours straight, probably within the next week.

Thanks for the congrats, stay tuned, more news to come.

Brad, it was mentioned somewhere (I can't seem to find where, possibly the AGM?) that PEUS would work towards endurance testing on the engine, can you give any indication to how things are progressing at PEUS and how far away they are from endurance tests?

Congrats on the latest developments too; it's good to see that all your hard work is producing more and more positive results as time goes on

[RVC Shareholder]

We have now signed two licensing agreements for engine development and Production. Sorry you are tired to hear about our company moving towards production. Anyway, nice to hear comments from you Paul.

Don't be like that Brad.

I'm just venting. I'm sure I have very little knowldege to what actually is or has been going on or what the licencing agreements actually mean to investors etc. Don't take things too seriously that are said here. Written text is one of the worst forms of communication and can be misinterpreted or misrepresented depending on the mood of the author or reader.

I'd be thrilled to see the engine go into definite production. It just feels like Ground Hog day sometimes.
I didn't even know you would be reading what I said. hehe

[RVC Shareholder]

Originally Posted by RVC Shareholder
I've all but given hope of ever seeing any of my money again, or should I say a return on my money invested.

Not cool... Keep it to yourself.

I'm as entitled to my opinion just as much as you are! How about you keep your personal attacks to yourself!
Stop trying to play the hero in charge. That's definitely NOT cool.
I hardly make comments on here and when I have in the past they have been supportive ones. The moment I make one comment that goes against the grain or general concensus 'people like you' jump on it.
It seems that everyone is entitled to their comment as long as it is something someone 'like you' agrees with.
You are not my keeper and if I have something to say, I'll damn well say it. If you don't like it,tough, that's your problem.

[Alastor]

Peus performed a great number of modifications. The engine is now running and the engine will be run in for 100 hours straight, probably within the next week.

Is that endurance testing or a break-in period? I ask because I am wondering what is involved with endurance or life testing an engine.

I would imagine it would involve running the engine continuously but while varying engine speed and load. As well as maybe varying the ambient temperature around the engine or maybe just the temperature of the coolant. Then perhaps running for an extended period of time at maximum engine speed. But that is all speculation.

[Revetec Raptor]

Brad It's good too see your still marching on, and have spare time to post here !

Also good too know Paul the LEGEND is still kick-en, its been a long time, several of us would love to see you back on the board !
(I think you & Alpine should swap Avatars )

Originally Posted by Revetec Raptor
I wonder if Brad has been told to stay off this site as unfortunately the spin gets him in more trouble that he anticipated.

Lets hope the Peus Agreement is GREAT for the shareholders & the technology !

I posted that remark because we hadn't heard anything significant since the WA testing years ago !
The testing in Germany & now two licensing agreements that haven't shown any clarity, the reason I'm sceptical is we have seen the same entrancements many times before.

Peus performed a great number of modifications. The engine is now running and the engine will be run in for 100 hours straight, probably within the next week.

Could you indulge more on the mods, or the Engine, is it the same size or much bigger, as most CHP units are quit large compared to the X4v2.

[Revetec Raptor]

Cogeneration (also combined heat and power, CHP) is the use of a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_engine"]heat engine[/ame] or a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_station"]power station[/ame] to simultaneously generate both [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity"]electricity[/ame] and useful [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat"]heat[/ame]. It is one of the most common forms of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_recycling"]energy recycling[/ame].

[Revetec Raptor]

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post 432 31/1/07

I am still betting another friend (hopelessly in love with your idea )
100DK that you will be all but forgotten in less than 5 years.


post 1239 24/11/09

Unfortunately the wager wasn't between Brad and I. It was between a friend and myself. Basically I bet that Revetec wouldn't last 7 years... and that bet was made in late 2003 early 2004 (not quite sure).

Honourable mention for keeping it going for so long. I was getting worried I might lose

Not!

hightower99 must be getting nervy ....

[hightower99]

No nerves on my part really RR.

Honestly I give Brad alot of credit for running his business and for the useful insight into what it takes to try to bring a new engine technology from theory to product. I may not agree with his claims or the validity of the the actual product but that is besides the point.

As for the bet, it was very much focused on whether revetec engines would make it into cars, trucks, trikes, bikes, planes ect. in a decent production run. Key to the bet was a condition where world media would have a chance to review and critique the performance of a revetec engine as a valid alternative to conventional motors, like the Wankel engine is in the RX-8.

I see no indication that this will happen within the set timeframe (end of Feb. 2011) It seems that Revetec hasn't made the final step past prototyping to actual production runs either on their own or through affiliates.

I enjoyed the information that Brad shared with us and I understand that sharing more detailed (read: interesting) information is difficult to make public because of the current state of his business.

I still am not convinced that the Revectec design has anything to offer over conventional designs however, Should Revetec begin actual production runs and therefore be able to make more information public as well as further independent testing possible. I would very much enjoy reading and discussing that information.

I don't think that time will be soon though...

[revetec]

Hahahah.. C'mon... I have independently tested our engine and proved 39.5% efficiency 207g/(kW-h) on gasoline, with a 2 valve pushrod engine. With heaps of scope for increases in that result, and you say you are not convinced that the Revectec design has anything to offer over conventional designs?

Our problem since is convincing the engine industry, as prior to our result it has been believed that a gasoline internal combustion engine has a maximum possible thermal efficiency of 37%. Because we broke that barrier, it has been harder for the industry to believe and accept the result.

We now have two licensing agreements. One with Peus in Germany and Atalan Makine in Turkey. Both companies are working hard towards comercialisation.

I still am not convinced that the Revectec design has anything to offer over conventional designs however, Should Revetec begin actual production runs and therefore be able to make more information public as well as further independent testing possible. I would very much enjoy reading and discussing that information.

I don't think that time will be soon though...

[revetec]

Dennis, the CHP that Peus want to target is domestic units which central heat apartments and provide electricity, which are in the same range of capacity which the X4v2 engine is currently.

Could you indulge more on the mods, or the Engine, is it the same size or much bigger, as most CHP units are quit large compared to the X4v2.

[hightower99]

Hahahah.. C'mon... I have independently tested our engine and proved 39.5% efficiency 207g/(kW-h) on gasoline, with a 2 valve pushrod engine. With heaps of scope for increases in that result, and you say you are not convinced that the Revectec design has anything to offer over conventional designs?

Nope it doesn't convince me when a single company produces a single published result under odd conditions. The average efficiency wasn't explored over a wide range of conditions. I am 100% certain that a conventional engine could be designed to produce exactly the same result under the same conditions.

Our problem since is convincing the engine industry, as prior to our result it has been believed that a gasoline internal combustion engine has a maximum possible thermal efficiency of 37%. Because we broke that barrier, it has been harder for the industry to believe and accept the result.

Sorry I don't buy that at all. The Diesel cycle is less efficient, given equal compression ratio, than modern Otto/Petrol cycle. Yet a diesel cycle engine has achieved 50% thermal efficiency. I don't believe an industry-wide unanimous agreement on an arbitrary 37% limit actually exists. Rather I would believe that some would find the results you are able to show to be insufficient/inconclusive. What could that limit possibly be based on? Who actually agrees with that limit?

[henk4]

The Diesel cycle is less efficient, given equal compression ratio, than modern Otto/Petrol cycle. Yet a diesel cycle engine has achieved 50% thermal efficiency.

I am sure the diesel engine (given equal compression ratio) will be much more efficient than a petrol engine (WITHOUT A SPARK PLUG), because the higher compression ratio in diesel causes the ignition....so if you take away the ignition option for a diesel, it is only fair to do that also for a petrol engine, isn't it?