Cadillac CTS-V versus BMW M5

[culver]

What does the quality of Chrysler products have to do with GM or Ford?

[NSXType-R]

Now that's rich. North America gets a manual and you don't.

But they get the wagon version and we don't.

[Ferrer]

But they get the wagon version and we don't.

I haven't seen any though. Not that the M5 is that popular anyway.

To be honest I'd rather have the manual that the estate, altough from what I've read the manual M5 is severely limited, which kind of negates the point.

[NSXType-R]

I haven't seen any though. Not that the M5 is that popular anyway.

To be honest I'd rather have the manual that the estate, altough from what I've read the manual M5 is severely limited, which kind of negates the point.

But as ugly as the 5 series in general is, the estate seems to fix everything that looks bad.

[wwgkd]

I think that both are at the higher end, so it'd probably make no difference.

However servicing and fuel consumption, could tell a different story.

Does BMW cover the service costs for the first 40,000 miles there too, or is that just a US promotion? Also, how hard is it to get GM or Caddy parts over there? It's not really that hard for BMW here, but they still manage to be expensive when not covered by warranty.

[Ferrer]

Does BMW cover the service costs for the first 40,000 miles there too, or is that just a US promotion? Also, how hard is it to get GM or Caddy parts over there? It's not really that hard for BMW here, but they still manage to be expensive when not covered by warranty.

No they haven't. Since for our first 65,000km we've paid all servicing.

I don't know how hard is to get Cadillac parts here, but certainly the dealer network isn't very extense. I can only think of one dealer in Barcelona, and I know of only two in Catalunya.

[fpv_gtho]

Bring it as the next Mondeo...

The next Mondeo should be built on a merger of the CD3 platform used under the Mazda6 and the US FWD medium-large Fords. Look out for a new Thunderbird in a few years though, or a Lincoln MKR (not the concept either).

Btw the only Mondeo variant here which can crack 100km/h in under ten seconds is that fancy turbocharged 'high performance' XR5 .. which is still half a second slower to 100 than a basic Falcon 6cyl auto (rentacar spec)

They really shouldve left the Titanium badges on that one. At least the Fiesta XR4 and Focus XR5T wore ST badges in Europe.

[Ferrer]

The next Mondeo should be built on a merger of the CD3 platform used under the Mazda6 and the US FWD medium-large Fords. Look out for a new Thunderbird in a few years though, or a Lincoln MKR (not the concept either).

That's not exactly enticing. I've read that your Falcon may also be facing extinction in its current form.

[nota]

They really shouldve left the Titanium badges on that one. At least the Fiesta XR4 and Focus XR5T wore ST badges in Europe.

You think they'd sell more of them if they wore Titanium or ST badges instead?

[nota]

That's not exactly enticing. I've read that your Falcon may also be facing extinction in its current form.

doesnt send me into raving extacy, no

btw Falcon sales this january were up 42% over jan 09 with Crummydore up about ~5%

[Ferrer]

doesnt send me into raving extacy, no

btw Falcon sales this january were up 42% over jan 09 with Crummydore up about ~5%

Let's hope the status quo somewhat remains.

[fpv_gtho]

I've read that your Falcon may also be facing extinction in its current form.

"Current Form", yes. Its dead as far as thats concerned. Some moronic local journalists (one mainly) when they heard Mullaly say in an interview during the global 3rd Gen Focus launch in the US, that "the days of Ford AUS producing the Falcon for themselves are over", only heard "the days of Ford producing the Falcon are over" and completely missed the real jewel "for themselves".

You think they'd sell more of them if they wore Titanium or ST badges instead?

Theyve got the Titanium models now as it is, but only with the weaker engines. I'd prefer they have the 2.5T optioned across the whole range and no fake ST/XR. The real version would likely be putting out 300hp and thus either need AWD or the Focus RS's Revo-Knuckle front suspension.