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Lambo only operated an F1 team in 91 as the "Modena" team.
At no time was there a "Lamborghini F1" team in name.
As engien supplier they powered
Larrousse in1989,1990,1992,1993.
Lotus in 1990
"Modena" - Lamborghini Formula One in 1991
Ligier in 1991
Minardi (1992)
Teh first car in post #2 is the closest to a full Lambo engnie and chassis
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
Well, it's on the Lambo Media Site under F1... shouold I change the name of the thread? if yes, to what?Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
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well based on the evidence "Lamborghini powered Formula 1 racecars"Originally Posted by nopassn
Shame they didn't name the cars with their team/chassis developers.
either the Larrouse or the Ligier was a Lola chassis IIRC.
Don't ahve my reference books here to confirm from the driver numres which each car is. But IIRC Larini was hte Modeno/Lamborghini driver and so I'm sure that's the "real" one. The Lotus is obvious
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
The thing that strikes about F1 cars of this era, is how exposed the driver's head and shoulders are. Shame that it took Senna's accident to realise the obvious.
IF the tyres were tethered it woudl never have hit him.Originally Posted by doric
I'm an "old school" driver who bleives in beign abel to LOOK AROUND to see if the overtake is on or if benign overtaken how to avodi them.
Current F1 drivers ahve SEVERELY restricted visibility.
If you lok at some of the 80s racing you'll see F1 drivers LOOKING over their shoudlers to judge the gaps.
I put the current spate of wheel knocking and "offs" at corners down to the lack of side and rearward vision.
Don't think the increased height ont he sides has doen anything to "improve" safety.
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
you can add Roland Ratzenberger's accidentOriginally Posted by doric
thanks, I don't know that Lambo made engines for f1
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THAT level of impact and the extra head restraint and protection would STILL be debatable IMHO.Originally Posted by forza_autodelta
No reduction in speed crashed side on into concrete.
It tore the tub open
It became included in the desire to improve track AND car safety.
I dont' remember at the time any issue that the tyre was contributory and in the Senna inquest Imola were attacked for NOT making changes to the circuit after Roland's death - a sad loss often over-shadowed by Senna's.
"A woman without curves is like a road without bends, you might get to your destination quicker but the ride is boring as hell'
What did it cause Senna's death?I'have nevrer been sure, it was a ruptures of the direction , no?maybe caused by the too important effort of the slicks...Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
The Italian (or whereever it was) government were keen to brand Frank Williams et al as murderers, blatantly ignoring the fact that the drivers know there is a very real risk of them being very seriously injured or killed, claiming that some steering component broke, causing the car to become an unguided missile which inevitably left the track.Originally Posted by forza_autodelta
Williams strongly denied this, showing that the data from the car proved that the steering wheel was still working when the car left the track, hence no conviction.
From what I remember: it was deduced that the accident occured when the car bottomed out on a bump mid-corner. This stopped the under-car air flow which was feeding the rear diffuser, causing a very sudden and massive loss of downforce. This is why the car suddenly stopped cornering as intended by the driver, heading from the track and into the wall.
IIRC it was actually one of the suspension arms that penetrated his visor, and unfortunately his head, leading to Senna's death. Would higher cockpit sides have prevented that?
Is anybody "responsible" for causing the accident? I highly doubt it, otherwise you could argue that every single death of a racing driver could be attributed to the manufacturer not making the car "safe" enough. Then you might as well stop all racing, and everyone from owning a car, and everyone from leaving their bed; lest they end up getting themselves killed in a way which was unforseen.
Thanks for all the fish
thanx for precisions Conventry
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