1/4 mile acceleration : Old school vs New School

[Motorer1]

Originally posted by BiTurbo
1). Two doors
2). 2 + 2 seats - ie; the 2nd set either not there or useless for anyone but the vertically challanged
3). RWD ONLY!
4). ENGINE - anywhere it'll fit
5). Composite body of some sort
6). Stiff suspension with NO roll.
7). Sub 6.0 sec 0 - 60
8). .... wait I'll get back to you....

The Infiniti G35 fits that description. Also the M3 CSL.

[BiTurbo]

Originally posted by Motorer1
The Infiniti G35 fits that description. Also the M3 CSL.

Nope

Must have 'Composite' body -
glass/carbon fibre

[megotmea7]

how does what a cars made of determine what its catagorized? if a car has a composite body its more into the supercar/exotics area asuming it has the performance to match, the corvette is a sports car so is the G35 and the RX-7 none of these have composite bodys but they performe just as good or better than the their composite body'd counterparts. matirial composition of the car has nothing to do with its abilitys

[megotmea7]

also RWD only? the zzII, skyline GT-R, WRX and STi's, all the evos, the murcialago, the 911 turbo, and many others arent sports cars because they arent RWD?

[Egg Nog]

Originally posted by BiTurbo
1). Two doors
2). 2 + 2 seats - ie; the 2nd set either not there or useless for anyone but the vertically challanged
3). RWD ONLY!
4). ENGINE - anywhere it'll fit
5). Composite body of some sort
6). Stiff suspension with NO roll.
7). Sub 6.0 sec 0 - 60
8). .... wait I'll get back to you....

I think we need to re-work this definition...

I partially agree with number 1, and I agree with number 4. Then again, number 4 only says it "must have an engine but it doesn't matter where" so its not really a restriction

Most of your points have been countered already, so I'll offer some for number 6: Must have sub 6.0 sec 0-60?

What about older cars? Is my 914 not a sports car? Is a Toyota MR2 not a sports car? A Miata? An MGB?


Sorry for all the people you've had disagree with you, but I just had to mention that...

[BiTurbo]

Originally posted by megotmea7
how does what a cars made of determine what its catagorized? if a car has a composite body its more into the supercar/exotics area asuming it has the performance to match, the corvette is a sports car so is the G35 and the RX-7 none of these have composite bodys but they performe just as good or better than the their composite body'd counterparts. matirial composition of the car has nothing to do with its abilitys

It's how I want it - that's how
and BTW
1). corvettes have composite bodies
2). RX7's are no longer built
3). Never seen a G35, but isn't it (and the RX7's) japanese - that puts them out of my list

[BiTurbo]

Originally posted by megotmea7
also RWD only? the zzII, skyline GT-R, WRX and STi's, all the evos, the murcialago, the 911 turbo, and many others arent sports cars because they arent RWD?

This is fun
RWD is what I want -
it's the way I want a sports car -
and BTW
the 911 Turbo GT2 is RWD -
and the rest are japanese - so who cares
But keep trying

[BiTurbo]

Originally posted by Egg Nog
Must have sub 6.0 sec 0-60?

What about older cars? Is my 914 not a sports car? Is a Toyota MR2 not a sports car? A Miata? An MGB?

Sorry for all the people you've had disagree with you, but I just had to mention that...

Yep - MUST HAVE sub 6.0 sec 0-60. if it didn't most late model 4WD's could drag it off - not the japanese ones of course
Never apologise, unless YOU'RE wrong, this site would be worthless without opinions and disagreements - it's cool.

[Egg Nog]

So, just double checking... the following cars, according to you, are not sports cars:

Year Make & Model (0-60)

1981 BMW M1 6.2
1987 BMW M3 8.1
1988 BMW M3 7.1
1995 BMW M3 6.2
1997 BMW Z3 6.2
1985 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z28 7.0
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 6.6
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z L98 6.8
1988 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z 7.0
1990 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.5
1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 6.7
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 327 7.7
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.3
1970 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.1
1975 Chevrolet Corvette 350 9.6
1976 Chevrolet Corvette 350 8.1
1977 Chevrolet Corvette 8.8
1979 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.3
1980 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.4
1982 Chevrolet Corvette 9.2
1984 Chevrolet Corvette 6.7
1986 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 6.0
1991 Dodge Stealth ES 7.1
1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo 6.0
1967 Ferrari 275 GTS/4 NART 6.7
1977 Ferrari 308 GTB 8.2
1980 Ferrari 308 GTS 6.9
1981 Ferrari 308 - Dino GT4 7.8
1983 Ferrari 308 GTBi Quattrovalvole 6.8
1988 Ferrari 328 GTS 6.7
1968 Ferrari 330 GTS 6.9
1970 Ferrari 330 GTS 6.9
1990 Ferrari 348 tb 6.0
1986 Ferrari 412 6.7...............................


Look, I could go on and on...

So an 1986 Corvette coupe is a sports car in your terms at 0-60 in 5.8 while the convertible isn't at 6.0?

[BiTurbo]

Originally posted by Egg Nog
So, just double checking...

Look, I could go on and on...

So an 1986 Corvette coupe is a sports car in your terms at 0-60 in 5.8 while the convertible isn't at 6.0?

Geeezus - you go on and on and on.....
OK I apologise - I was wrong - change 0-60 to sub 6.1 sec

[Egg Nog]

Ahhh...the things I do to prove a point

Still, denying that a Ferrari 308 is a sports car? That's just shameful...

[BiTurbo]

Originally posted by Egg Nog
Ahhh...the things I do to prove a point

Still, denying that a Ferrari 308 is a sports car? That's just shameful...

WELL - I REFUSE TO BE ASHAMED
Early Ferrari's just aren't that great besides being what I (me that is) call slow.
Now let's see you try and prove something else!
Go on - lets see it

[megotmea7]

a little late but who the hel said anything about the 911 GT2? not me....

[Egg Nog]

Originally posted by BiTurbo
Now let's see you try and prove something else!
Go on - lets see it

I don't beleive this, now I'm just ashamed of you.

I can't beleive you don't think this qualifies as a sports car:



And that this is not a sports car:




Now, can't you realise that you can't put such exact definitions of what a sports car is?

[crisis]

Originally posted by BiTurbo
1). Two doors
2). 2 + 2 seats - ie; the 2nd set either not there or useless for anyone but the vertically challanged
3). RWD ONLY!
4). ENGINE - anywhere it'll fit
5). Composite body of some sort
6). Stiff suspension with NO roll.
7). Sub 6.0 sec 0 - 60
8). .... wait I'll get back to you....

I think it will suffice to say that your definition is at odds with most other peoples, therefore we are really only debating if you opinion is valid, not what is a sports car.