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Oh yes F450, that comes with the extended king cab right? Dual rear wheels? Bed liner?


I wasn't talking about the Ford F450, I was talking about this Ferrari:


It's called the F450, the successor to the 430.
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Oh yes F450, that comes with the extended king cab right? Dual rear wheels? Bed liner?



Anyways, I thought the california was sort of a scaglietti sucessor? Like Scaglietti then Fiorano then California. Guess not. The 599GTB wiki page has a nice categorized timeline at the bottom.


This is what WIki says about an F430 or Enzo sucessor:
"The Millechili (Italian for: one thousand (mille) kilograms (chili)) is a lightweight two-seater loaded with Formula One technology. In many ways it will be a successor to the Enzo, but instead of adding power, Ferrari will subract weight. The Millechili is a derivative of the F430s aluminum space frame on a slightly longer, 104.3-inch wheelbase. The mid-engine layout will carry a new V10 engine of unknown displacement making upwards of 600 horsepower."
the V10 was an option discussed about 6 months ago or more, for what I know they then discarded it (and also the possibility of another v12 iirc) in favour of the V8 twin turbo.

btw, the Millechili, as already stated, is just the visualization of the idea behind the car, it has the same value of some notes on a toilet paper tbh.
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I wasn't talking about the Ford F450, I was talking about this Ferrari:
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It's called the F450, the successor to the 430.
Really? I had no idea!
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:09 PM
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It's not likely to be called the F450 in the US. I'm pretty sure Ford has that trademark.
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Maybe they'll call it the F458.
45= 4.5L
8=8 cylinders
That's how they used to do it AFAIK.
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:03 PM
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Leon or anyone else, do we know for a fact the new engine will be a 4.5L? Is it jsut gonna be a bored/stroked version of the current F430's engine?
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Leon or anyone else, do we know for a fact the new engine will be a 4.5L? Is it jsut gonna be a bored/stroked version of the current F430's engine?
up to now, the only fact I know for sure it will use an upgraded version of the California's engine. whether that implies a bigger displacement or not, I don't know, need to ask.
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up to now, the only fact I know for sure it will use an upgraded version of the California's engine. whether that implies a bigger displacement or not, I don't know, need to ask.
Wait, isn't the 4.3L V8 engine of the california the same as the ones from the F430???
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Wait, isn't the 4.3L V8 engine of the california the same as the ones from the F430???
technically yes and no.
the engine of the F430 served as the base, California's one has, as the main difference, the direct injection, among other things.

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F430's engine
Bore stroke 92.00 mm 81.00 mm 3.62 in 3.19 in
Cylinders V-8 in 90.0 vee
Displacement 4.3 litre 4308 cc (262.89 cu in)
Type DOHC

4 valves per cylinder 32 valves in total
Compression ratio 11.30:1
Maximum power 489.7 PS (483.0 bhp) (360.2 kW) @ 8500 rpm
Specific output 112.1 bhp/litre or 1.84 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque 465.0 Nm (343 ftlb) (47.4 kgm) @ 5250 rpm
bmep 1356.4 kPa (196.7 psi)
Specific torque 107.94 Nm/litre
Main bearings 5
Coolant Water
Bore/stroke ratio 1.14
Unitary capacity 538.5 cc/cylinder

Scuderia's engine
Bore stroke 92.00 mm 81.00 mm 3.62 in 3.19 in
Cylinders V-8 in 90.0 vee
Displacement 4.3 litre 4308 cc (262.89 cu in)
Type DOHC

4 valves per cylinder
32 valves in total
Construction
Sump Dry sumped
Compression ratio 11.90:1
Fuel system EFI
Maximum power 510 PS (503.0 bhp) (375.1 kW) @ 8500 rpm
Specific output 116.8 bhp/litre or 1.91 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque 470.0 Nm (347 ftlb) (47.9 kgm) @ 5250 rpm
bmep 1371 kPa (198.8 psi)
Specific torque 109.1 Nm/litre
Maximum rpm 8640 rpm
Main bearings 5
Coolant Water
Bore/stroke ratio 1.14
Unitary capacity 538.5 cc/cylinder

California's engine
Bore stroke 94.00 mm 77.37 mm 3.7 in 3.05 in
Cylinders V-8 in 90.0 vee
Displacement 4.3 litre 4297 cc (262.219 cu in)
Type DOHC

4 valves per cylinder 32 valves in total
Compression ratio 12.20:1
Fuel system direct petrol injection
Maximum power 460.3 PS (454.0 bhp) (338.5 kW) @ 7750 rpm
Specific output 105.7 bhp/litre or 1.73 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque 485.0 Nm (358 ftlb) (49.5 kgm) @ 5000 rpm
bmep 1418.4 kPa (205.7 psi)
Specific torque 112.87 Nm/litre
Coolant Water
Bore/stroke ratio 1.21
Unitary capacity 537.13 cc/cylinder
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the next V8 mid engined Ferrari should use a 4.7 liter version of the California's unit.
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For more downforce.

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I wasn't talking about the Ford F450, I was talking about this Ferrari:


It's called the F450, the successor to the 430.
I would be really disappointed if that were the case. They just decided to put random vents everywhere all over the bumper?
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I would be really disappointed if that were the case. They just decided to put random vents everywhere all over the bumper?
Well don't worry then. Because it won't look anything like that.
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Well don't worry then. Because it won't look anything like that.
Good. Ferrari seems to be gravitating for pretty ugly looking cars. Functional, but still ugly.
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Old 02-10-2009, 03:35 PM
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i really wish ferrari would stop with this evolution of the modena for their styling. its getting old and it was never that pretty in the first place f355 was much prettier than the 360 modena.

am i the only person thats getting sick of this body style?
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