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Old 01-16-2009, 08:22 PM
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It's interesting that they say this will be a replacement for the Enzo instead of the F430. I thought they had that covered with the FXX.
Can anybody decode Ferrari's alphanumerical nonsense and tell me what FX-60/70 means?
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It's interesting that they say this will be a replacement for the Enzo instead of the F430. I thought they had that covered with the FXX.
Can anybody decode Ferrari's alphanumerical nonsense and tell me what FX-60/70 means?
The FXX is not a road-legal car. It's just a "Halo" Model.

It is the Successor to the F50 GT instead of the Enzo.
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The FXX is not a road-legal car. It's just a "Halo" Model.

It is the Successor to the F50 GT instead of the Enzo.
Oh.
I haven't followed it all that closely, but I always assumed that there would eventually be a road-legal FXX.
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Oh.
I haven't followed it all that closely, but I always assumed that there would eventually be a road-legal FXX.
Apparently, a tuning company made a street-legal FXX. It was Edo Competition.

edo competition makes the Ferrari FXX street legal
Autojunk.nl - Ferrari FXX Edo Competition- Video
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I wouldn't say that FXX is an F50 GT successor - the latter was a purposely built racecar, while the FXX is a research program for amateurs.
As for the numbers in the name of this mule, I don't know what should they mean, cause making its debut in 2010 it wouldn't be neither FX60 nor FX70, following the tradition, because that year Ferrari will be 63, I guess, years old, so FX63 would be the most logical choice Although F50 has been taken to a market when Ferrari was 48, right?
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I wouldn't say that FXX is an F50 GT successor - the latter was a purposely built racecar, while the FXX is a research program for amateurs.
No. I wasn't talking about the purpose of the car whether it's a research program or a race car, etc.

Because if You look at the FXX, It's more related to the F50 GT, even the F40 LM and the 288 GTO Evoluzione because they are stripped Ferraris with added power and improved performance. None of them has actually a primary purpose on driving on road, they were primarily for track use.
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just to clear things a little.
my info are sure and correct, you are free to doubt, but then don't complain

this cars, the red F430 and the grey 360, are both mules of the next F142 car, aka the replacement for the F430.
it should be unveiled at the end of the year or at the beginning of the 2010.
right now they are considering the F142 a 2010 model year.
the engine will be a tuned version of the unit you find in the California, so an high revving V8 with DI and NA.

the rumored Enzo's successor, will debut much later, at this time, there shouldn't be any kind of mule, prototype or muletype (in Italian, muletto, prototipo and mulottipo, referring to the fact they can use certain parts of the old car or of the new car in a different ratio).
rumors about the fact that car will use a twin turbo V8 engine are correct, even if last word wasn't already been said last time I asked. it's the more likely probability btw.
so, V8, TT, Di.

Millechili concept is nothing but the basic idea, a smaller and lighter car.
the exterior is obviously going to be much different from that and the Enzo, and probably even the name is not going to be Millechili.

the FX60/70 naming refers to the fact such cars were supposed to celebrate Ferrari's 60th and 70th birthday.
tbh, only the F40 was released at the company's 40th birthday, as the F50 was unveiled in 1995, so after 48 years from the foundation, and the Enzo in 2002, so after 55 years.

the real internal naming code is much difference btw, as you see.
for example, the 360 Modena is F131, while the F430 is F131 Evo, because of the car's shared platform (chassis and the likes).
so I doubt FX60 or 70 is the real code name, tbh I'm pretty sure it isn't, I just can't remember the real one.
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I surfed the net and I think I found something here.

The Ferrari F450, it's a very likely successor to the F430 from the looks of things. Though, I'm still not very sure if this is really it.

2010 Ferrari F450 - Top Speed
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I surfed the net and I think I found something here.

The Ferrari F450, it's a very likely successor to the F430 from the looks of things. Though, I'm still not very sure if this is really it.

2010 Ferrari F450 - Top Speed
there isn't nothing to really consider in that link.
the renders are ugly too.
read what I posted above, those info should be something
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Strange there are still no Scaglietti successor projects (or are there any?) - it's the oldest Ferrari of the ones produced today...
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Strange there are still no Scaglietti successor projects (or are there any?) - it's the oldest Ferrari of the ones produced today...
first mules are under testing, the car should be unveiled by the end of 2010 iirc.
I don't remember its code, maybe F147 but it's just a guess.

the next gen of front engined cars will be base on the California platform.
the next Scaglietti engine should be based on the 599 GTB one.

all front engined cars should eb designed so to be ready to accommodate an awd system, which won't be used anyway probably.
iirc the mid engined cars won't be ready to accommodate the awd system.
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Do you have an insider at Ferrari's?
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Do you have an insider at Ferrari's?
I'm Montezemolo actually...

My house mate used to work at Ferrari until last year, now he is at Maserati but probably just for a short period.
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I'm Montezemolo actually...

My house mate used to work at Ferrari until last year, now he is at Maserati but probably just for a short period.
That explains why you know a lot about this topic...
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Oh yes F450, that comes with the extended king cab right? Dual rear wheels? Bed liner?



Anyways, I thought the california was sort of a scaglietti sucessor? Like Scaglietti then Fiorano then California. Guess not. The 599GTB wiki page has a nice categorized timeline at the bottom.


This is what WIki says about an F430 or Enzo sucessor:
"The Millechili (Italian for: one thousand (mille) kilograms (chili)) is a lightweight two-seater loaded with Formula One technology. In many ways it will be a successor to the Enzo, but instead of adding power, Ferrari will subract weight. The Millechili is a derivative of the F430’s aluminum space frame on a slightly longer, 104.3-inch wheelbase. The mid-engine layout will carry a new V10 engine of unknown displacement making upwards of 600 horsepower."
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