They made it look tackier?
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They made it look tackier?
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are the pictures shops? they look like shops.
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I kind of like it, as an art piece, to actually see the craftsmanship that went into that. I think if you leave any carbon fiber and aluminium unpainted it looks badass.
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i think you'd look better in a Datsun 180-B ferrer or atleast thats all you could affordOriginally Posted by Ferrer
Looks hot - definetly the best looking bugat ive seen so far
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I think it's just you. The design of the Veyron is very stylish and elegant IMO. Yes it's another rear-engined supercar, but it does look very special. I can't find anything sharp or edgy anywhere on the exterior, everything blends together. I can just look at it and tell it isn't only meant to be fast. With the wing retracted it appeals to me as a civilized 2-door ultra-luxury machine, but with the wing out it just turns Sparta-mad. If anything, it was the EB110 that screwed the trend. This is a perfect mix of traditional Bugatti and modern culture IMO.
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First of all, the nature of my complain has nothing or little to do with the styling.
And secondly, of course it's just me, it is my opinion and not all cars have to be judged by what I think of them.
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no, i agree with ferrer, in a way. i just dislike the veyron on a fundamental level. i don't know about it's character or anything, and i don't care. sure, give me one, but if it was my money, no way.
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not shops, but renders... There was an actual car at IAA though, I'm sure we'll see the real deal when Dubbya get's the Frankfurt coverage posted - if you search on another, lesser forum, you'll see pics of the real car at the show...
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It looks so nice in Bugatti's trademark blue...
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It seems to me, from those posts, that the whole reason you don't like the Veyron is because VW owns Bugatti. Your "spiritual", "intangible" arguments leads me to believe you don't really have a reason and it's more about the fact that you think it makes you seem more discerning of an automobile enthusiast to not like the current "it car".
You said Bugattis are about art, but then later you say it's not the styling you have a problem with. Some would easily and credibly argue that the engineering that went into the vehicle itself is art. Some would say the deft in performance the car is capable of is art.
The spirit of an automobile has always been performance. True, styling has always played an enormous role in the success and the legend of certain cars, but in nearly all of those cases the demand for performance was equally as important in their creation as the eye towards the aesthetics. You mentioned the Bugatti T35. I no doubt believe that the car would not be such a styling legend had it not been as successful on the track as it was. It always has and always will be the case that styling alone cannot carry the legend of an automobile. That styling has to have the performance to back it up.
The Veyron carries the spirit of Bugatti well. Advances in materials, advances in engineering, advances in the capabilities of all automobiledom. And it has the swoopy, compact and purposeful styling expected by today's wealthy customers. You seem bothered by the very fact that this car was built to make money (although to date it has not). Every Bugatti in the past was built with that purpose in mind as well. On this topic, and others I've seen your posts in, you seem to have lost sight of the fact that the car business is there to make money. Money. Not legend, not spirit, not emotion. Only when a marque gets lucky do we get the combination of profitability and classic status.
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I'll say it short and simple. I don't like this car becausre it's nothing more than a PR-stunt. I think it's not that difficult to understand.
Furthermore it's just my opinion, the world isn't ruled by me or by my opinion, so I don't see why I'm so wrong or why it's such a problem if I think A or B.
And finally you said car manufacturers are in the bussiness to make money. Fair enough. Only Bugatti (and therefore Volkswagen) is losing insane amounts of money with the Veyron.
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