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Old 10-16-2004, 08:53 AM
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coventry is 100% right . it's not an art car(what about the Giugaro designed Daewoo Kalos ?? ) . it's a car that has to get 4-5 peoples from point A to point B .. and most important . be very cheap . .. even my father wants one
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[QUOTE=henk4]This is the advantage of having local production, using very cheap labour. Don't be surprised when you see other manufacturers move to eastern european countries, like BMW and Audi already did.
You may have your doubts about the quality of such cars, but in the countries where they are sold many people are capable of dealing with those and you see very many Dacia's and Oltcits still being driven around in Romania.

As long as i don't see it in the U.S we already have lots of cheep cars Toyotas, Hondas you know all Japanese cars .
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This car is pure genious. It's perfect for it's market and it's good.
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Old 10-16-2004, 10:44 AM
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As long as i don't see it the U.S we already have lots of cheep cars Toyotas, Hondas you know all Japanese cars .
Compared with this Toyota and Hondas are hugely expensive.
The Logan starts at 5000 Euros IIRC
= ~$6,240
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Old 10-16-2004, 12:42 PM
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this car is a piece of crap[B]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always good to hear a well balanced opinion
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I don't doubt the quality of this car.
I saw one of these the other day, and it appears to be nothing less than a booted Clio.

It gets the job done as simply as possible.

You in the way i used it was undefined and not directed at you personally
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Compared with this Toyota and Hondas are hugely expensive.
The Logan starts at 5000 Euros IIRC
= ~$6,240
will said but it dose not change any thing....if the new one is $6,000
how much is the used one??? $50.00
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This car is pure genious. It's perfect for it's market and it's good.

please dont get me wrong ok.....
perfect for who? it may be perfect for you but it is not perfect for me,
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Old 10-17-2004, 01:11 AM
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please dont get me wrong ok.....
perfect for who? it may be perfect for you but it is not perfect for me,
Did you actually read what I wrote ? Perfect for it's market. Perfect for it's intended market. As in eastern-Europe. I never said it was perfect for me nor for you. It's not aimed at the western market.

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will said but it dose not change any thing....if the new one is $6,000 how much is the used one??? $50.00
That's just a blatantly stupid comment.
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Old 10-18-2004, 03:56 AM
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please dont get me wrong ok.....
perfect for who? it may be perfect for you but it is not perfect for me,
it's perfect for my father and many other romanians
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the car is perfect for somebody still riding a bicycle or a moped-
workers in east europe, middle east, Russia, China, South America-

and it will end up to come to West Europe and North America.

Marketing in West Europe is already decided by Renault's management.

why? because there are more and more people calculatung.
and calculating means:
how many hours in a day do you really use your car, does it really work?
how many hours of a day does a car stand in a parking lot?

do i really need a car with
ac, stereo, 450hp, metallic paint, chrome, wide tyres
and all the whole caboodle we call sporty-
to have it standing in the parking lot for 23 hours 20 minutes a day?

don't get me wrong, i am an automotive engineer.

so tell me what is wrong if those Renault- Dacia people simply remember
where it all begun?
when they remember André Citroen to build a car to carry
two farmers wearing their boots and a crate of eggs from A to B?

For a long time there have not been many cars causing
such a discussion as the Logan.

This car is brilliant- exactly what people around the world want.
People who can calculate,
people who don't need a car as a substitute for a virility they don't have.

this is the car Volks-Wagen stands for, that company failed-
and that's why they are in big trouble today.

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the car is perfect for somebody still riding a bicycle or a moped-
workers in east europe, middle east, Russia, China, South America-
and for those who now drive an old Lada, Zastava or Dacia.
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How much does it coast?? Specs?? Cool Civic alternative .
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Old 10-18-2004, 12:28 PM
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How much does it coast?? Specs?? Cool Civic alternative .
you name it, exactly:

Anything that is complex is useless, and everything that is useful is simple.
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http://www.dacia.com.pl/pl/DaciaSITe/home/index.html

pricetag: 5000 EURO

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Renault is really THE car manufacturer of the 21st century IMO. Awesome design, worldwide coverage with Nissan and very good marketing skills and good engines too, especially the diesels.
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