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Old 10-30-2007, 03:43 PM
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It is Not cool! ,




plus it is insidiously heavy without any equivalent payoff in horsepower, Has poor mileage and endurance compared to VQ35, is not in production skyline and does not rely on forced induction!

Don't do it Nissan, it is lame! And it is very American like, which is also very lame!
So the engine (forced induction V-8) in the Ferrari F40 is a piece of crap?

Since when do actual race cars have anything to do with the road car?

If you knew anything about race cars, you would know that road cars and race cars have usually have very little in common.

Also, did you know that past Skylines in the GT500 class haven't been 4WD?

Where are you getting this stuff from?

Edit- BTW, the Ferrari F40 is as Italian as it's ever gonna get.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:51 PM
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There are several problems with your semi-rant.

1. I don't think Nissan would spend several hundred million dollars on a worthless engine with no power gain and uses even more fuel.

2. Right... when have you been able to purchase an (full) race engine in a stock car ? Never happened since the '60s.

3. What's wrong with "being American"? I don't think that was Nissan's intentions. Like everyone else, they want results and it's allowed in the rules.
Duell - I know It is not a new engine, it is the VQ35 with two more cylinders, but where is the forced induction!

2. If it were to be produced, It would not be Based on production GT-R

3. I have no comment because I do not want to be flamed! but still, putting a V8 in a skyline or gt-r is not cool.


Edit: What results could not be got with a turbo VQ35? 500 hp!, Infact i would think that in terms of torque and horsepower, the gt-r engine would trump any small block V8, like the one they put in the Nismo GT Z



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So the engine (forced induction V-8) in the Ferrari F40 is a piece of crap?
No it is not, but the nissan V8 is!

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If you knew anything about race cars, you would know that road cars and race cars have usually have very little in common.
Race cars are usually Based on their road going twins, a different engine means something entirely different

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Also, did you know that past Skylines in the GT500 class haven't been 4WD?

Where are you getting this stuff from?

This stuff i am typing is called "Truth and facts". I just write it like it is
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:55 PM
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i know a team that has put a twin turbo LS1 in an R34. they don't have issues with 'not being cool'. if anything, it has a wide appeal
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:07 PM
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This stuff i am typing is called "Truth and facts". I just write it like it is
Well... your version of the truth and our versions seem to be different... Just noticed that...
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:16 PM
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No it is not, but the nissan V8 is!



Race cars are usually Based on their road going twins, a different engine means something entirely different
But, thing is, you don't know anything about the Nissan V8.

What are you basing your facts on?

And, race cars don't have to be based on the road going twins. In fact, I don't think the rules in Super GT require that they have anything in common.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:41 PM
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But, thing is, you don't know anything about the Nissan V8.

What are you basing your facts on?

And, race cars don't have to be based on the road going twins. In fact, I don't think the rules in Super GT require that they have anything in common.
Cmon, it is the VQ35 with two extra cylinders, a Z engine turned into a V8. and what do we know about It.

First, the super GT cars including the fairlady and 2003 skyline gt competition reduced displacement from 3.5 to 3 liters because the engine is weak or prone to breakdown, It is built with weak internals even though they will be upgraded in the competition skyline and without forced induction, it is not that powerful either. So what you get is a weak, obese, 4 liter v8 that barely makes it to 500 HP in an already heavy skyline!.

Not cool!
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:18 PM
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ahhh haa!

I see where this is going. You just dont want it to have a v8 because then your favorite rice burner is no longer rice and is now a real mans car.

gotcha
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So what you get is a weak, obese, 4 liter v8 that barely makes it to 500 HP in an already heavy skyline!.

Not cool!
where do you get 4 liter?
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So 500bhp is underpowered?
Are you having a laugh?
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So 500bhp is underpowered?
Are you having a laugh?
Yes it is. It needs a Fujiwara Tofu Shop sticker on the side.
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Cmon, it is the VQ35 with two extra cylinders, a Z engine turned into a V8. and what do we know about It.

First, the super GT cars including the fairlady and 2003 skyline gt competition reduced displacement from 3.5 to 3 liters because the engine is weak or prone to breakdown, It is built with weak internals even though they will be upgraded in the competition skyline and without forced induction, it is not that powerful either. So what you get is a weak, obese, 4 liter v8 that barely makes it to 500 HP in an already heavy skyline!.
Okay... how the hell do you know that and also, your logic is pretty damn flawed.
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Yes it is. It needs a Fujiwara Tofu Shop sticker on the side.

i hear those can add up to 55 more horsepower these days
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Yes it is. It needs a Fujiwara Tofu Shop sticker on the side.
It also alters your physics so that you can take harpins at full throttle.
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where do you get 4 liter?
since they will add 2 cylinders to the vq30
3 liter v6 + 2 cylinders= 4 liter v8

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So 500bhp is underpowered?
Are you having a laugh?
and barely reaching 500 hp in Gt500 is not a feat,

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Okay... how the hell do you know that and also, your logic is pretty damn flawed.
They have never used a v6 engine above 3.0 liters in super gt. why? because the engine is weak, that is why there are not many famous high power VQ engines around unlike the RB26 . These characteristics are bound to be exemplified in the Nismo Z V8 which is going into competition next year.

I say stick with the gt-r engine!, in the gt500, which is what is likely to happen. If they change it to V8, it will just be a heap of trouble! If there were to be a good nissan v8, it would be the mating of two SR20's, other than that it is better to stick with the forced induction VQ
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Cmon, it is the VQ35 with two extra cylinders, a Z engine turned into a V8.
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since they will add 2 cylinders to the vq30
3 liter v6 + 2 cylinders= 4 liter v8
which is it
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