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Old 01-12-2009, 09:21 PM
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i always liked the CLS, except for its 4 seats. i would never buy it though but slam some nice rims and tint it and you got a sexy machine!
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Contrary to the UCP jury's opinion, I find this W212 very attractive. Solid, angular, modern too - very Merc like.

No more soft and squishy E-class, ze Panzerwagen is back!
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Nothing wrong with solid angular and modern, but look at those headlights!
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Old 01-13-2009, 03:03 AM
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Nothing wrong with solid angular and modern, but look at those headlights!
why don't people realise that you won't see any of those dreaded lights once you are in the car and driving (remember, that is its purpose). As long as these units produce sufficient light it is ok.
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why don't people realise that you won't see any of those dreaded lights once you are in the car and driving (remember, that is its purpose). As long as these units produce sufficient light it is ok.
But every time you approach your car to get in it and drive you'll see them.
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But every time you approach your car to get in it and drive you'll see them.
I have the same problem with my car, and I am very happy.
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Old 01-13-2009, 03:25 AM
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I have the same problem with my car, and I am very happy.
But your car isn't that bad (and neither is this, by the way). But certanly for me there's a limit where even a great drive can't make up for disastrous looks.

Which, amongst other reasons, is probably why I wouldn't buy a BMW again.
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Old 01-13-2009, 03:33 AM
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But your car isn't that bad (and neither is this, by the way). But certanly for me there's a limit where even a great drive can't make up for disastrous looks.

Which, amongst other reasons, is probably why I wouldn't buy a BMW again.
I used a hyperbole, of course, but I find it increasingly frustrating that people comment on silly and minor design aspects of new cars, rather than looking to the overall technical value. The boot lid of one of the BMW 7-designs springs to mind.... totally irrelevant, but the talk of the town.
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I used a hyperbole, of course, but I find it increasingly frustrating that people comment on silly and minor design aspects of new cars, rather than looking to the overall technical value. The boot lid of one of the BMW 7-designs springs to mind.... totally irrelevant, but the talk of the town.
Very true. Negativity around here is suffocating sometimes.
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Nothing wrong with solid angular and modern, but look at those headlights!
For me it's more the fact the inner lights look like an after-thought, and nothing on a premium car should look like an after-thought.
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Very true. Negativity around here is suffocating sometimes.
It takes a lot of effort to reach my level of "all modern cars are rubbish" sort of negativity though...
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I don't like it, especially the rear, because it seems higher than what I suspect it actually is, and even thinner, without a real presence I would expect on a such a car. Probably the horizontal lights bring an even more flat idea to the whole rear part, so I think my problem resides in them.

the front: with the first leaked images, renderings and even the last spy shots with less camos, I thought the smaller headlamps were simply wrong, put of place and without a particular decent look.
looking at the car they started making a sense though, and even if I can't actually understand the whole complex design of them because they somehow manage to disappear in the car's front, they create some lines flowing on the bonnet and giving a dynamic yet solid look to the front view.
So I like it, but I also think it's not working with the rear if considered together.

Personally, I don't like the squared central console, it reminds me too much of the consoles from the eighties and nineties, and I never liked them, actually I though and still think the interios' design was quite underestimated in those years usually, even if I liked, mainly as a kid but it still works, the use-as-may-buttons-as-you-can trend going on in those years.
as an opposite, I don't like recent Opel's minimalist interiors'.
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why don't people realise that you won't see any of those dreaded lights once you are in the car and driving (remember, that is its purpose). As long as these units produce sufficient light it is ok.
They have a big impact on how the front of the car looks, second only perhaps to the shape of the grille. Suprising to hear this from someone so interested in the classic designs of the car world!
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I like it a lot, except I think the headlights could be just once piece, so do away with the little break between the lights...
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:32 PM
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holy shit it does look like a Genesis! The rear looks practically identical.
Or maybe it's the Genesis looks like the Merc?
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