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Old 03-12-2014, 06:46 AM
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Favorite Classic American muscle car?

My favorite older American muscle car has to be the 67 Shelby GT-500 aka "Elanor" what's yours?
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:30 AM
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The FNM Furia GT.

The Chevy Citation X-11 comes a close second.
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The FNM Furia GT.

The Chevy Citation X-11 comes a close second.
I'm surprised it isn't that one time when International Harvester turbocharged the Scout, but didn't tell anyone about it, and then cancelled it without telling anyone not long after.

inb4 Kitdy claims Parisiennes, Beaumonts, Acadians, and Laurentians as muscle cars even though all modern muscle cars are made in Canadexico anyway.
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:18 PM
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inb4 Kitdy claims Parisiennes, Beaumonts, Acadians, and Laurentians as muscle cars even though all modern muscle cars are made in Canadexico anyway.
Surely, they can at least claim the Bricklin, can't they?
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:37 PM
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inb4 Kitdy claims Parisiennes, Beaumonts, Acadians, and Laurentians as muscle cars even though all modern muscle cars are made in Canadexico anyway.
You know I only vaguely know of those cars and their names. I am glad your beautiful fetishism for Canada has reminded me of all of them properly. I care for them not.

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Surely, they can at least claim the Bricklin, can't they?
America can have that one back. Come on! Built in Nova Scotia?! That's like making a car in Northern Ireland!
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:58 PM
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This one!


Think about it- how often do you see a street car with an engine based off an engine that was used in a race car?

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Old 03-13-2014, 12:33 AM
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This one!

Think about it- how often do you see a street car with an engine based off an engine that was used in a race car?
well some brands started like that, like a relatively unknown marque called Ferrari...
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I guess the most recent one would be the old 911 GT3s, when they were still using the Metzger engines. Nowadays you're morely likely to see a race car with a production derived engine than a road car with a race derived engine.
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The most recent would've been the stillborn Jaguar CX-75, if had reached production.

On the other hand, is the V8 in the 918 Spyder derived from the V8 in the RS Spyder? And also, the V8 in contemporary McLaren is apparently loosely based on that of endurance racing Nissans from the late nineties and early noughties.
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The most recent would've been the stillborn Jaguar CX-75, if had reached production.

On the other hand, is the V8 in the 918 Spyder derived from the V8 in the RS Spyder?
Same architecture, but enlargenated.

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And also, the V8 in contemporary McLaren is apparently loosely based on that of endurance racing Nissans from the late nineties and early noughties.
According to the font of all knowledge:

McLaren bought the rights to the Tom Walkinshaw Racing-developed version of the Nissan VRH35 racing engine, as used in Le Mans in 1998. However, other than the 93 mm bore, little of that engine remains in the M838T
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The most recent would've been the stillborn Jaguar CX-75, if had reached production.

On the other hand, is the V8 in the 918 Spyder derived from the V8 in the RS Spyder? And also, the V8 in contemporary McLaren is apparently loosely based on that of endurance racing Nissans from the late nineties and early noughties.
the Carrera GT used the engine intended for the LMP1 Porsche that never came about
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well some brands started like that, like a relatively unknown marque called Ferrari...
True, but Ferrari hasn't used a racing engine in a production car in quite some time I think.

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I guess the most recent one would be the old 911 GT3s, when they were still using the Metzger engines. Nowadays you're morely likely to see a race car with a production derived engine than a road car with a race derived engine.
That was the engine I was referring to. You're right, if it works on a production car, it'll probably work in a racing application. With some serious modifications.

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The most recent would've been the stillborn Jaguar CX-75, if had reached production.

On the other hand, is the V8 in the 918 Spyder derived from the V8 in the RS Spyder? And also, the V8 in contemporary McLaren is apparently loosely based on that of endurance racing Nissans from the late nineties and early noughties.
The CX-75 in the turbo 4 cylinder form or the jet engine form? Where else was that 4 cylinder used?

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the Carrera GT used the engine intended for the LMP1 Porsche that never came about
That would be the most recent and best example of racing engines used in road cars I think. That car was awesome.

Oh, and the McLaren F1 of course.
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True, but Ferrari hasn't used a racing engine in a production car in quite some time I think.


Oh, and the McLaren F1 of course.
That's debatable, Ferrari is racing its GT engines that it uses in the production cars.

The BMW engine was specifically designed for the F1, initially with no intention to go racing. It really became a race engine in the BMW LM winner.
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The CX-75 in the turbo 4 cylinder form or the jet engine form? Where else was that 4 cylinder used?
The four cylinder was Cosworth's design for this year's Formula 1 season, until they decided they would use V6s instead of inline fours.
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I think that the so called race derived engines have next to nothing or nothing at all with their production variants and that it's all marketing BS
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