R-35 GTR delayed until 2007!

[Nildo]

Bad news, the R-35 GTR will not be seen for another 3 or more years. Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn has stated that it is because the has not seen a design that 'I really like yet'. He also said that he wants the new GTR to be as big a technological leap forward as the R-32 was in 1989.

Since Carlos has taken over at Nissan it has become very successful again (he is credited with the G35 Infiniti and 350 Z, as well as other recent successes for Nissan), so if the final product is as good as he suggested, it will be worth the wait. Insiders still point to two different engines available, a V8 of between 4.5 and 5.4 litres for North America, and a twin turbo 3.3 litre version of the 3.5 in the current 350 Z. Both are aimed at 300 kw or more.

The actual design intended for use won't even be seen at a motor show until at least 2006.

[fpv_gtho]

ive heard theyre gunna use a VQ30DETT as well as the 4.5L V8 found in alot of Infiniti's, both aimed to break 300kw as you said

[r34_296kw]

a v8 skyline???????????? well dats a 1st.......besides shudnt dat boss guy actually get the opinion of other ppl other than wat he just likes......besides i cant wait till the r35 gt-r comes out....eventhough it will take longer than expected

[fpv_gtho]

well its to appeal to american buyers as its the first global GT-R, and personally i'd take the V8 over the VQ

[r34_296kw]

Originally posted by fpv_gtho
well its to appeal to american buyers as its the first global GT-R, and personally i'd take the V8 over the VQ

do u think they'll allow that v8 skyline into the v8 supercars challenging the fords and holdens? i think they also have sum v8 supra coming out but not sure if it is tru or not

[fpv_gtho]

is that something like the 5000gt? ive seen sketches of one in wheels magazine, but they said it was gunna have an f1 inspired v10, unless thats supposed to sit above the supra. i dont see it being included into V8 supercars as its only currently open to locally made V8 RWD cars, and ford and holden are the only ones with an eligble entry. perhaps the next time the system gets changed (usually about every 10 or so years ive found, and the V8 supercars was introduced in 1993 so a change is due soon) there maybe a loophole, but mitsubishi would be more eager to put a magna in, in the hope it would increase the sales of the car

[icezdragonz]

is that something like the 5000gt? ive seen sketches of one in wheels magazine, but they said it was gunna have an f1 inspired v10, unless thats supposed to sit above the supra. i dont see it being included into V8 supercars as its only currently open to locally made V8 RWD cars, and ford and holden are the only ones with an eligble entry. perhaps the next time the system gets changed (usually about every 10 or so years ive found, and the V8 supercars was introduced in 1993 so a change is due soon) there maybe a loophole, but mitsubishi would be more eager to put a magna in, in the hope it would increase the sales of the car

didnt they use an r32 or an r32 engine in that race a couple of years ago? and that it killed all of the holdens and fords so they took it out?lol

[fpv_gtho]

In 91 and 92, the R32 Skyline GT-R's raced in the ATCC as part of the Group A championship and took both the Bathurst and ATCC titles for both years in complete dominance. In 1993 the category was changed to the current V8 Supercars format of V8 RWD Holden and Ford sedans because the whole Group A idea was a complete disaster. The fans of the sport had deserted it after first the Ford Sierra's beat the V8 Commodores then the Skylines came and dominated. You can't expect Australian fans of an Australian motorsport to just roll over and accept that they were beaten by a Japanese car

[Nildo]

No you can't. But by the same token Holden and Ford should have tried to raise themselves above the level they were at. If they built more competitive cars, they would have been more competitive.

Back then the gap between japanese high performance stuff and Australian V8's was huge. Our cars had no way of competing. But rather than trying to build a better car, they got rid of the machine embarassing them. I have never forgiven Holden or Ford Australia for that. It took them another 10 years or so (about now, really....or the advent of the BA falcon if you will) to really try and build much better cars. I applaud them now, but it is far too late. I hope the next gen jap stuff really moves the game on again, and that if they do that other manufacturers will be quicker to respond. It only results in better cars for all of us.

[fpv_gtho]

Well the R35 skyline is rumoured to be a real ripper so it could get everyone rethinking how to make cars again, but with Australian manufacturers getting in on the global sale now i dont think we'd sit back and watch everything go by before we took action. With the Monaro now going to the Middle East, South Africa, North America and the UK Holden will be further looking to keep up with the worlds global manufacturers.

Ford on the other hand havent stuck there heads in very much on the local exports market. With the upcoming Territory they might have the right product to crack certain markets and at a later date introduce the Falcon. Ford North America is craving for a car like the Falcon to replace the ageing Crown Victoria but not only can't the Broadmeadows plant keep up with local demand let alone export demand, cracking the US market would be easier with an SUV product like the Territory rather than something like the Falcon

[r34_296kw]

Originally posted by fpv_gtho
is that something like the 5000gt? ive seen sketches of one in wheels magazine, but they said it was gunna have an f1 inspired v10, unless thats supposed to sit above the supra. i dont see it being included into V8 supercars as its only currently open to locally made V8 RWD cars, and ford and holden are the only ones with an eligble entry. perhaps the next time the system gets changed (usually about every 10 or so years ive found, and the V8 supercars was introduced in 1993 so a change is due soon) there maybe a loophole, but mitsubishi would be more eager to put a magna in, in the hope it would increase the sales of the car

yea......its not very famous here...and i think they shud also allow sum other cars apart from fords and holdens enter the v8 supercars well but only the deciding ppl can decide and that just my opinion....besides its seems really cool n fun actually talkin 2 u nicely

[fpv_gtho]

well dont say anything racist or stupid, and ill try not to either and it should be fine.

It's getting harder and harder to change now, pre 1997 wouldve been the best time for a major rules change like the inclusion of Mitsubishi, since AVESCO was established in 1997. But with the China round next year theyre obviously aiming at globalisation, so bringing in a 3rd manufacturer would help that. Have a look at NASCAR, they quite happily get along with Ford, Chev and Dodge, with the V8 Supercars borrowing heavily in the engine department from NASCAR, so that leaves Mitsubishi able to use a Dodge engine. But then theres Toyota........

But back to what you originally suggested, after the whitewash of 1991 and 1992, i think the crowds would turn away in droves if the Skylines were allowed to race again, especially if the R-35 is supposed to be as groundbreaking as the R-32

[r34_296kw]

Originally posted by fpv_gtho
well dont say anything racist or stupid, and ill try not to either and it should be fine.

It's getting harder and harder to change now, pre 1997 wouldve been the best time for a major rules change like the inclusion of Mitsubishi, since AVESCO was established in 1997. But with the China round next year theyre obviously aiming at globalisation, so bringing in a 3rd manufacturer would help that. Have a look at NASCAR, they quite happily get along with Ford, Chev and Dodge, with the V8 Supercars borrowing heavily in the engine department from NASCAR, so that leaves Mitsubishi able to use a Dodge engine. But then theres Toyota........

But back to what you originally suggested, after the whitewash of 1991 and 1992, i think the crowds would turn away in droves if the Skylines were allowed to race again, especially if the R-35 is supposed to be as groundbreaking as the R-32

lol, the crowds'll prolly be full of asians n ppl like me hu luv v8s as well as jap cars, so does it mean that the r-38 (if it ever comes out) is gonna be as ground breaking as the r-35? besides apart from breaking the 300kw what else is gonna be "ground breaking" in the r-35?

[r34_296kw]

dis is a pic of da r35 gtr i got 4rm google....not sure if its real or not.......if it is then the boss guy made da rite move in not releasing the r35 gtr yet as the body wud b a total flop

[fpv_gtho]

well im getting the hint that things like active yaw control, electronic stability control, traction control and some other computer programs as well as possibly a major upgrade on the AWD system would do it