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Hey... I had no idea that could be done or that even existed. I saw Locost videos on youtube and to be honest, this is beyond interesting. My fav vehicle when it comes down to control and turning is the ariel atom, but considering it's cost, i can't go for it. Locosts, they're pretty much like a home built Atom or lotus 7, they can be built cheap, light, for drag or for cornering and people who own them are crazy about them.
My only prob with building one of these puppies would be proper welding. I can weld, but wow do i suck.
So, i'll study the building of a locost for now and make that a project in a few years from now. Maybe I'll take a welding course or get help with welding during that period. I can't get it out of my head now that I know about them.
So now, knowing that i can one day build a roadster that's a better handler than anything I can buy, i'll scratch off those cars that are impractical from my list: lotus elise, opel, MR2 and consider a used miata or a used porsche boxster.
I'd normally drop the boxster idea because they're harder to find and cost more for upkeep, but they have much more ponies than a miata and have better fuel economy.
Boxster: Nicer, probably more reliable, much more power, better fuel economy, and it's a Porsche!
miata: most likely a better handler due to less weight, much easier to find, cheaper parts and easier to come by.
hm, decisions.
if it's just a stop gap don't bother with the boxster, the mazda will do fine... just don't get too carried away with it
Andreas Preuninger, Manager of Porsche High Performance Cars: "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging."
Hi everyone, been browsing this place over the last few days and thought Id use this thread as an excuse to stop lurking.
I currently drive a UKDM MK1 MX5, and I love it to death. Previous to this, Ive had a Stage 2 (circa 260bhp) Nissan 200SX RS13, and two MK1 Toyota MR2s. Whenever I look to buy a car, handling is always the key thing I look for. We make annual trips to Germanys Nurburgring every year so I need something I know isnt going to put me at a disadvantage to the people I go with (who drive a JDM DC2 IT-R and a 570bhp manual Supra).
I think my MX5 is pretty faultless when it comes to handling, and Id say a lot of that is to do with the FR layout, the incredible chassis (some of you Lotus Elan fans may recognise it), and the lack of power as stock. Its extremely grippy, forgiving, and easy to drive. Admittedly mine is now running fully adjustable coilovers, and while its fantastic on a track, its not much fun on rough UK roads. Again though, as standard it was fantastic.
Just thought Id chip another vote in for the MX5.
No doubt the MX-5 is a great handling car. Bu I think you are missing some serious contenders:
These are all very celebrated in their respective categories...
BMW M3 E30, 318is, 320is, M3 CS (E46) Any Porsche 997 or 996 (except the GT2), Boxster, Peugeot 205 GTi, 309 GTi, Clio Williams, Clio 182 Trophy, Honda NSX, Integra Type R, Civic Type R (not the new one) various Mitsu EVO's and Impreza's, Lotus Elan, Elise, Exige, Zonda F, Audi R8
But this is such an individual thing to talk about. An e39 523i handles excellent compared to an A6, A Clio 182 much better than a Stilo HGT and so on. I think it is very wrong to talk about the best handling car, regardless of any categorization, as there is not much sense in comparing an FF like Clio to an RR like a 911.
Which car handles better? The fastest 'round a track or the most involving on a curly B-road?
Well, I could talk about this forever...
Just my 5 cents
Dont get me wrong, I dont think the MX5 is the best handling car ever, not by a fair way. But for the money, I think you'll struggle to find a car that can compete with it. Afterall, you can pick MX5s up very easily these days for under £1k...the cars youre classing it against, even at their lowest prices are often at least double, if not 22 times the price. Even the cars that are similarly priced from your list, either arent anywhere near as competitive, or you'd struggle to find one that hasnt been ragged to death no matter how much money you have.
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I drove a Alto Mk.3 with custom Koni FSD's and stabalisation rod from a CRX. It was the best handling vehicle I ever drove in. The comfort was good whilst still maintaining a good smooth(not totally flat) handling. Im thinking of making this rather cheap conversion too.
^ just reminded me, the CRX can be one hell of good handling car
Andreas Preuninger, Manager of Porsche High Performance Cars: "Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging."
well for what I believe and what ive driven a fiat X19 abarth is a handling beast or hell just the plain fiat X19 absolutely handles like its on rails IMO but thats just my 2cents
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